alaninaustria Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Very nice scratch work! Cheers Alan Rockie Yarwood and Wackyracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Very nice scratch building in the rear cockpit! Alain Rockie Yarwood and Wackyracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Great job so far! Kinda disappointing to see the fit issues on the nose. I thought the Revell kit might be a big improvement on the Trumpeter in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackyracer Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Thunnus said: Great job so far! Kinda disappointing to see the fit issues on the nose. I thought the Revell kit might be a big improvement on the Trumpeter in this area. I think it would be fine opened up. It's got quite a lot of flash and soft mouldings which is a slight disappointment for a newish release. I have the 262a version as well. Will open that box to see if the parts are the same quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackyracer Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 Got a base coat of rlm66 into the pit Then worked on the front end with superglue and sanding sticks made the engines up and fitted the cowlings. Nice fit all round, just one part that needed a superglue fillet. Test fit of fuse to wings and again no foreseeable problems Alain Gadbois, LSP_Kevin, MikeC and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradG Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 @LSP_Kevin Could I get you to move this thread over to the Training Day GB please. Rockie Yarwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BradG said: @LSP_Kevin Could I get you to move this thread over to the Training Day GB please. Done! Kev Rockie Yarwood, Stefano and BradG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wimmer Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Great work so far! Looking forward to watching your progress! cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockie Yarwood Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Sweet! great work in the 'pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/28/2019 at 10:58 AM, Wackyracer said: Got a base coat of rlm66 into the pit Great work so far! Please keep in mind that the the trainer version of the 262 had a different "top shelf" around the cockpit openings. That is an emergency jettison system for the canopy, which was present only on the night fighter and not present on the trainer. Here is a photo of the trainer canopy (more here: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969886-avia-s-92-cs-92/ ) : Here is a photo of the canopy on the night fighter (more here: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/walkaround/wk.php?wid=152 ) : As you can see, on the trainer, the canopy is secured directly to the fuselage. On the night fighter the canopy is secured to a frame, raised above the fuselage, which in turn is secured to the fuselage. The height of the canopy measured from the ground to the top of the clear parts is exactly the same on both aircraft but on the night fighter the bottoms of the canopies are "trimmed" in order to account for this jettison frame, which makes the side windows appear "squat" on the night fighter. I hope this helps. Radu dodgem37 and Rockie Yarwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackyracer Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 9:13 AM, Radub said: Great work so far! Please keep in mind that the the trainer version of the 262 had a different "top shelf" around the cockpit openings. That is an emergency jettison system for the canopy, which was present only on the night fighter and not present on the trainer. Here is a photo of the trainer canopy (more here: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969886-avia-s-92-cs-92/ ) : Here is a photo of the canopy on the night fighter (more here: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/walkaround/wk.php?wid=152 ) : As you can see, on the trainer, the canopy is secured directly to the fuselage. On the night fighter the canopy is secured to a frame, raised above the fuselage, which in turn is secured to the fuselage. The height of the canopy measured from the ground to the top of the clear parts is exactly the same on both aircraft but on the night fighter the bottoms of the canopies are "trimmed" in order to account for this jettison frame, which makes the side windows appear "squat" on the night fighter. I hope this helps. Radu thanks Radu, so do i need to remove the 2 strips on the fuselage? Rockie Yarwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Wackyracer said: thanks Radu, so do i need to remove the 2 strips on the fuselage? As I mentioned, the kit has a "shelf" at the top of the cockpit opening. This shelf stands "proud" of the fuselage (but it is also slightly "sunken" into the fuselage). On the real thing this housed the jettison mechanism for the canopies. You can see it in the photos of the night fighter I linked above. The trainer did not have this canopy jettison mechanism, so the canopies were connected to the fuselage. The top of the cockpit, with the two openings for the cockpit, should be flush and the same level from the front edge of the windscreen part to the back, at the same level as the existing "shelf" for the windscreen. The problem is not as much with the "shelf" itself but with the canopy... The canopy will be missing a chunk at the bottom. As you can see in the photos, the canopies of the night-fighter have a portion removed at the bottoms in order to make room for that jettison mechanism. The solution may be to cut the canopies at the horizontal frames and make new lower clear panels out of the clear plastic (a CD box, for example) - they are flat anyway. HTH Radu Kagemusha, Alain Gadbois and Rockie Yarwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Removing the strips is the most visible difference. Maybe in the opened position the corresponding missing amount on the canopy may not be too noticeable! Alain Rockie Yarwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackyracer Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Thanks everyone for the helpful comments and advice. Its somewhat ironic that I asked Brad if I could move this build over cos I wasn't sure if it was past 25%, and now it feels like I've took several steps back, to correct so 10% in So canopy/tub correction, reference... I do have volume 1 also but that covers the design and development rather than 2 seaters. the Czech Avia book has the clearest images and also the 262 in action has 2 drawings side by side of the visual differences between B1a and 1a/U variates. these are the offending rails Interesting to see the sinkmarks on the fuselage So to try and hide/eliminate the rails I sanded them flush to the fuse The rails are part of the top cover, not the fuselage, hence the visible join above, but I seem to have made them disappear. I also took the brave/mad/silly (delete as appropriate) to remove the high/deep frame at the base of the canopy, with the view to re-scribe or replace with a thinner frame. you can clearly see my halfway through attempts on the rear section, note to self, youtube = polishing canopies techniques! Being in a rectification frame of mind and with all the sanding/polishing stuff to hand I also set about the nose section and the poor fit of the gun doors and thanks to my reference books the removal of the 2 bumps. Another coat of Mr Surfacer and looking better. Needs some panels reinstating but much happier. Finally photo of the top section with the reduced side rails Aaron KiwiZac, Chris Wimmer, Kagemusha and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Nice work, Aaron! Do any of your references (aside from the Classic Publications volumes) deal with the prototypes in any detail? I'm planning a couple of conversion projects, and just can't seem to find anything. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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