davral64 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Wait, what? I thought Mustangs had hooves. The bottom of their hooves do have panel lines but the tops mostly don't. nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, davral64 said: Wait, what? I thought Mustangs had hooves. The bottom of their hooves do have panel lines but the tops mostly don't. Yes, but how many horse shoe nails show on the top? Richard nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davral64 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Just now, RLWP said: Yes, but how many horse shoe nails show on the top? Richard Oh no you got me there. Those from Grumman had a whole bunch. NAA only used laminar flow nails. Bells were hammered in from the side I think. I gotta look at some pictures to be sure! D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, davral64 said: Oh no you got me there. Those from Grumman had a whole bunch. NAA only used laminar flow nails. Bells were hammered in from the side I think. I gotta look at some pictures to be sure! Always check your references, laminitis is really nasty Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbaldguy Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Sorry to come in so late on this but.... The whole panel line argument is the same as trying to talk dispassionately about who should be president or whether Normal Rockwell was a better painter than Picasso -- there is no real right answer; everything boils down to your personal point of view. Just because construction drawings or three-views show panel lines doesn't mean you can actually see them on the real thing. As for photos, cameras record reflected light, which changes by the minute and is reliable only for that instant in time. Just because you can see some obscure detail in a close-up photo doesn't mean you should be able to see it on a 1/32 model no matter how close to your eye you hold it because you can never recreate the same visual perspective -- there is not such thing as a 1/32 human eyeball. In the scales most of us build, prominent panel lines and fasteners are pure fiction. If you don't believe me, try this simple test if you are brave enough: If you have a model of an airplane that is currently at an airport, display or museum, take it there and hold it out at arm's length then walk back until your super realistic model and the real airplane are the same relative size, then see for yourself how many of the panel lines and other "details" you spent hours sweating over are actually visible on the real thing. You'll be surprised. Personally, I don't care one way or another about panel lines and rivets as long as when I see your model I can say to myself, "How the hell did he do that??" It's that Picasso/Rockwell thing. thierry laurent, Adrian, davral64 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince14 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Yay! Perhaps the most tedious argument* in all of modelling is back! *The colour of the cowling on Voss' Dr.I may or may not be even more tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, vince14 said: *The colour of the cowling on Voss' Dr.I may or may not be even more tedious. I'll end up going with whatever WNW recommends, even though they themselves seem unsure about such things from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Can I just check - is this the five minute argument or the full half hour? Richard MikeC, D.B. Andrus, Adrian and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANicoll Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, RLWP said: Can I just check - is this the five minute argument or the full half hour? Richard I think we are into day 2 at least.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davral64 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Just because everyone's got one of each... I think the whole rivet counter thing is kinda fun to watch/read. That is until entropy inevitably wins the day and or people start being what we all have one of. That is unless it's funny. Funny always wins. I've spent my whole life in aviation and I didn't know that NAA putty'd the wings until this thread started. Pretty interesting stuff. I did know that they used a metal diaphragm to seal the ailerons to guide airflow in an advantageous direction or something like that. Ultimately who cares? We build models, we aren't analysing data from the LHC. Keep it generally respectful (unless it's funny) and just super glue your fingers together like I do. Adrian and cbk57 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 4:47 PM, vince14 said: Yay! Perhaps the most tedious argument* in all of modelling is back! *The colour of the cowling on Voss' Dr.I may or may not be even more tedious. So, what colour was the cowling? I'm bored... Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANicoll Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, dmthamade said: So, what colour was the cowling? I'm bored... Don No no Don, What you mean is 'Was Lou IV Blue or Green and what color Blue was it?' dmthamade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, CANicoll said: No no Don, What you mean is 'Was Lou IV Blue or Green and what color Blue was it?' Neither, It was red.... Really bored Don CANicoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, dmthamade said: So, what colour was the cowling? I'm bored... Don How about finding something else to do rather than resurrect a contentious thread? LSP_K2, MikeC and dmthamade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Kagemusha said: How about finding something else to do rather than resurrect a contentious thread? Sorry. Suitably chastised. Will behave. Don LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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