thierry laurent Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jack said: thierry, didn't see it overhere yet, but was interested in the decal choice given in the kit, especially greek ones if present? Jack Domino got them two weeks ago. There are indeed two Greek schemes including one with a huge tail art. Jack, Out2gtcha and LSP_K2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Tony T said: Pity the Greek option might not be doable till some Hellenic AM emerges. Tony What sort of AM are you referring to, specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, thierry laurent said: Domino got them two weeks ago. There are indeed two Greek schemes including one with a huge tail art. Two Greek options in the kit decals? I’ve got the kit, and only see one, #239, the 2000EG with the tail art. What’s the other Greek option? BTW, that aircraft can be built from the kit since it’s not a -5 type upgrade. https://www.airfighters.com/photo/200153/M/Greece-Air-Force/Dassault-Mirage-2000EG/239/ It has the original C IP https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8109341 Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Indeed, I mixed things. This is actually two schemes with tail arts including one Greek scheme. Unfortunately, discussing the schemes looks quite useless as the kit decals seem close to impossible to use correctly. Moreover, as all stencils are in French doing a foreign plane asks for aftermarket decals. Jack and jgrease 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 18 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: What sort of AM are you referring to, specifically? Decals. The kit ones apparently fight off solvents etc. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony T said: Decals. The kit ones apparently fight off solvents etc. Tony OK, excellent. I don't know my Mirages all that well, so thought perhaps the KH kit needed some resin fixings of some sort, though what I've seen so far looks pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrease Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I've finished my build - completed pics here. Let me know what you think. John rafju 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Anyone have opinions on these decals, other than being expensive: https://www.ebay.com/itm/FFSMC-Productions-Decals-1-32-Mirage-2000C-et-5F-Français-ref-P-32-052-/293289949818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Collin said: Anyone have opinions on these decals, other than being expensive: https://www.ebay.com/itm/FFSMC-Productions-Decals-1-32-Mirage-2000C-et-5F-Français-ref-P-32-052-/293289949818 Just received it yesterday. The Decal sheets (there is one for the common markings and one for the squadron markings) are quite full of details that you don't find on the OOB sheet. Quality looks fine of the decals themselves. Anyway, cannot be worse than the original kiity hawk sheet that is quite inacurate (and if I trust the comments here and there, the decals from KH are quite thick and difficult to set) There is a 15 pages leaflet with instructions (in french except for the instruction guidelines that are also in english) and details pictures (for the seat and landing gear details). There are also decals from Berna for the M2000C with more choice for the squadron markings. Quality is overall good as well. May be less details on the technical markings than FFSMC. https://www.aviationmegastore.com/dassault-mirage-2000c-bd32-66-berna-bd32-66-aircraft-scale-modelling-decals/product/?action=prodinfo&art=167988 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/dassault-mirage-2000c-bd32-65-berna-bd32-65-aircraft-scale-modelling-decals/product/?action=prodinfo&art=167987 https://www.aviationmegastore.com/dassault-mirage-2000c-bd32-64-berna-bd32-64-aircraft-scale-modelling-decals/product/?action=prodinfo&art=167989 I used some several years ago on a smaller scale model (Mirage 2000 testbed for the Rafale, by the way you can find the conversion kit on FFSMC store) and they were top notch to my opinion once on the model (they can look weird if you look closely on the sheet but once installed it's ok). Edited February 23, 2020 by discus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Good to know as I got them. I was sure Berna would release some as well but the quality of the Berna decals may be very variable... Lothar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, thierry laurent said: Good to know as I got them. I was sure Berna would release some as well but the quality of the Berna decals may be very variable... Sorry to hear about the Berny quality, I wanted to order some as the seem reasonably priced. Lothar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Well as I plan to do several M2000, I ordered also the Berna decal sheets but I have yet to receive them. I let you know my impressions when I get them. Edited February 23, 2020 by discus Lothar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Some close friends had quite mixed results going from bad (too stiff decals with quite bad adherence) to good some years ago. However, according to them, the good ones were not exceptional. I also own several Berna sets but have never used them up to now. However, I trust those modellers. They are talented guys. It looks there is really a gambling and black magic dimension in decal use... Lothar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, thierry laurent said: It looks there is really a gambling and black magic dimension in decal use... So true... That's a real shame as bad decals can totally ruin a good built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel111 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, discus said: So true... That's a real shame as bad decals can totally ruin a good built. I have never experienced any issues with decals since I started using Future as a decal softener many years ago. It makes the decal film go almost liquid and also acts as a glue. On large decals the effect can be too much so thin down with water a little. Cheers, Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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