Uncarina Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Want to get an idea of how to assemble a Swiss watch? Buy a Wingnut Wings kit! I'm building the Hannover Cl.II early version, "White 4" Royal Prussian Schusta 12. As with most WWI subjects, colors are an open topic, and WNW interprets this aircraft as having the lower lozenge pattern on the upper wings, with plain linen underneath. The kit contains decals for this, but they don't quite match the lower lozenge pattern on the lower surfaces: The lozenge third from the bottom is the WNW interpretation, but they aren't a match for the lower surface lozenge pattern just below. Inspired by the Aviattic decal sets that have come out for the WNW Halberstadt CL.II (Early) kit which also have the lower lozenge pattern on the upper wing surfaces, I went ahead and purchased one of their lower lozenge sheets. I will cut these using the kit decals as a template and use the WNW ribtapes. I also have Ray Rimell's excellent build guide, where he assembles the same aircraft but with a different interpretation of the lozenge pattern. All good! Having had such success with the water-based oils made by DecoArt for my Sopwith Camel build (RFI coming hopefully soon), I used these on this build as well: They function just like oils for simulating wood but dry as fast as acrylics and clean up with water. Thanks to Mike (Sandbagger) Norris for the tip! Here is where I am so far with the build: Cheers, Tom Edited February 20, 2022 by Uncarina Landrotten Highlander, Nick32, LSP_Kevin and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff T Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Nice work so far Tom! Cheer's, Jeff. Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Thanks Jeff! It’s been fun so far. Cheers, Tom 109 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monthebiff Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Nice project Tom and your progress looks fantastic. I have the original boxing of this kit so will be taking notes. Regards. Andy Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Thanks for your encouragement Andy! It’ll be great to have you along. As far as I know, the two kits are virtually the same, except the later release includes the painted lozenge decals for the upper wing center. I’ve joined the two fuselage halves, and once the seams are sorted I will start on the fuselage lozenge. I hope for another update soon. Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Bloody great start on this one! The darker lower color lozenge you mention not matching seems to be their take on the “alternate” lower side lozenge. Aviattic recently did sheets with these colours as well that are a bit darker than the lozenge sheet you have. I don’t know which is a better representation for your build but I love that there are options for both color sets. If you have any interest in comparing, you can see them half way down the lozenge decal page along with some photos of remaining fabric samples at https://www.aviattic.co.uk/132-lozenge-decals.html. Uncarina and bstachel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Thanks Mike! That makes sense, and I had seen those patterns on Aviattic’s website. It sure would be easier to use the kit decals, but I like the vibrancy of the “lower” lower lozenge pattern, plus it would be more consistent to use the same pattern. I am inspired by Aviattic’s releases of this pattern for the Halberstadt’s upper wings so will follow suit. Even more questionable, I am thinking of using this pattern for the upper tailplane and the port lower tailplane, per my interpretation of period photos. I’d love your take on this, however! Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I dont really have opinions on whether or not it would be accurate, but it’s certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that any fabric was used if it was the only option on hand at the time. Keep in mind the lower tailplanes were lozenge-painted wood, but you could definitely get away with top tailplane and a lower elevator Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Mike, Got it, thanks! Would the lower surfaces always be plain linen if the upper surfaces had the lower lozenge pattern? Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I’m not 100% convinced that the planes actually had lower on top... but I’d hazard a guess that if they did, they were probably clear dope linen underneath. I think you should go ahead with that approach, it’ll be cool to see something a bit different like that! Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 Progress: I closed the fuselage halves and began painting. I started with the underside of the fuselage, which has a speculative finish, according to the WNW instructions. Their interpretation is a series of transverse bands of the alternating five colors of the painted lozenge that is on the non-linen surfaces. Since this was not carved in stone, and without evidence to the contrary, I replicated the lozenge pattern for the underside painted surfaces. My first attempt was painting and masking with irregular lozenge shapes each of the five colors, which was suboptimal since I underestimated the size of each lozenge shape, and because it created a noticeable layering effect, resulting in the first colors appearing sunken. My second attempt used a lozenge pattern that I cut onto Tamiya masking tape, with each color labeled: I used Tamiya colors matched to the kit decals, and here the first color is ready to be applied. Eventually, and with significant touching up (meanwhile I was getting used to a new airbrush), I achieved this result: Photographs indicate that the fuselage sides and top were also painted with a lozenge pattern, then overcoated forward of the tailplane/rudder with Prussian blue. Because of this, I won't be replicating the entire pattern, but instead I plan to add the lozenge colors that are lighter and darker than the overcoat. To be continued! Cheers, Tom dutik, chukw, Landrotten Highlander and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 After a four year hiatus I am picking this one up again. Since my last post I've added the painted lozenge for the fuselage sides and top, but not as meticulously as the lower surface since it was lightly painted over in the dark color, along with the "01" on each side. I've also ordered the Aviattic five color alternative lower lozenge pattern for upper surfaces, and I will start working on the wings as I finish up my current build. Cheers, Tom olgerd83, Dpgsbody55, Borsos and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hi Tom great to see you moving on this one. It is shaping up nicely. I read through the thread and appreciate your pointer on ‘water based’ oils - much obliged. Keep it up - she’ll turn out nicely! Kind regards, Paul Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Thank you Paul! I appreciate your support. I have to finish my Spitfire build but after this I’ll be focusing on the wings and tailplanes, adding the lozenge and painted surfaces. Cheers, Tom Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Nice Tom! Since the demise of WnW, you really don't see as many of these builds as you used to. Looking forward to seeing more progress! Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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