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Any idea how hard it would be to convert  the HK B-17G into a YB-40? I know it had an extra top turret and the waist guns were twin 50's instead of the singles.  Any other differences i am missing?

 

 

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Any ideas welcome.

 

Greg

 

 

 

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You would essentially need both B-17 kits, as she has the stinger tail and unstaggered waist are only available (currently) in the E/F kit. You would need a Martin top turret for the radio compartment, too, which isn't currently available. The top turret in the Hobby Boss B-24 is kind of a Martin, however :-)

 

So, if you cobble together parts from three $200+ kits, plus some scratch building, you could most certainly build a YB-40! And I, for one, think you should do it.

 

- Dennis S.

. Thornton, CO USA

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Did the YB-40 have a retractable ball turret? The one in the photo sure is tucked up into the belly pretty far. It doesn't appear to be a remote turret, either. I also noticed that the tail gunner's position seems to have some additional armor, or improved field of vision going on. Pretty neat stuff!

 

- Dennis S.

  Thornton, CO USA

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If I am understanding correctly, the b-17G kit would need the back half of a B-17F grafted on, plus (the best we currently have) Martin turret from the B-24. Seems kits are parted out on E-bay all the time, making it reasonable to get fuselage and turret separate.  Maybe could get parts from manufacturer as well. Don't give up. What an awesome idea.  The result would be impressive !

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I don't think you need 2 kits, the YB-40s were base on "F" airframes and most photos I have seen show no "Cheek guns" with the "G" fairings and the chin turret on the YB-40 is not the same shape as the production chin turrets. 

Hope this might help.

 

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1 hour ago, 32scalelover said:

Well the only kit I have at this point is the B-17E/F.  Would it be easier to modify an G chin turret or just try to build one from scratch since they are slightly different?

 

 

I think modifying one would be easiest, as the overall dimensions are pretty much the same. To boot, I have an extra I'd be happy to send your way. Drop me a PM and I'll get it in the mail to you.

 

- Dennis S.

  Thornton, CO USA

 

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One last question.  Any ideas on where I would get the twin waist guns?  I assume they would be of a different configuration from that of a SBD or SB2C?  I was thinking of trying to cast copies if I could find something close. 

 

Does anyone know if there are any scale drawings of the YB-40.  All I have seen is around 10-15 pics on the internet.

 

Greg

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On 10/22/2019 at 5:53 PM, do335b6 said:


That’s not a YB-40. It is in fact a standard B-17G named ‘West End’ of the 384th BG with an experimental fixed battery of 6 x .50cals and was installed at Wright field. It was flown operationally from Grafton Underwood on a few occasions in July ‘44. The guns were actually fired by the pilot!

 

Sadly it was badly damaged and written off after a crash landing on July 7th ‘44. 
 

In regard to a YB-40 conversion - the E/F would definitely be an easier starting point in regard to nose window arrangements, but as others have said a chin turret would need to be sourced - although this is different to the standard G model turret and has a small sighting window between the guns. 
 

The YB-40 retained a similar cheek gun window arrangement to the standard F model, whereas the earlier XB-40 retained the early three small nose windows on either side. 
 

YB-40s actually had staggered waist guns, so it does complicate things a little if you plan to use the F-kit. The earlier XB-40 retained the opposite waist window arrangement, but had a longer turtle deck which reduced the Martin turret’s range of motion. The YB-40 has the turtle deck reduced in length, enabling a full traverse for the turret. 
 

It’s a bit of a minefield doing a conversion like this! The B-17 is never an easy subject!

 

Tom

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