Marcel111 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Anthony, can’t wait to see this build! Who knows when the HK kit will come out so I think you did the right thing. The oversized intake seems very easy to fix. Regarding the belly strap, I purchased a resin part for my F-4S but if I did it again I’d just cut the requisite parts from thin styrene sheet (should be some drawings out there), that’s just far easier to work with. The wing angle correction is super easy to do, just cut the requisite angle into a piece of cardboard and use that as a fixture. Cheers, Marcel LSP_K2 and Anthony in NZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) On 10/15/2019 at 8:37 AM, Anthony in NZ said: Chek, a quick question. Do you know if the WH conversion has the downward slope of the intake top line? In all the photos I've seen, it doesn't appear to me that they do. However, there is a build over on Large Scale Modeller where the builder has made a very creditable job of depicting that higher 'shoulder'. I'm not on my regular PC or I'd post the link, but it should be discoverable. Edited to add: there are several threads on the HKM British Phantoms in this forum, a couple of which grew to contain epic amounts of info and detail photos. Well worth searching out. Edited October 16, 2019 by Chek Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Here is a pic from my review: There is some slope from top down to intake, whether it is enough I didn't take a pic from the right angle. At least with the intake as separate parts it is a little easier to deal with. I wonder also if you could use a 'regular' J intake and fair it in? LSP_K2 and Anthony in NZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Cees Broere said: Ahh, I wasn't sure it was Angelo or Steve Thanks Kev. Cees Thanks guys, I will track it down. I think I found one the other day but all the images were stuffed because of Photobucket... LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 hours ago, Marcel111 said: Anthony, can’t wait to see this build! Who knows when the HK kit will come out so I think you did the right thing. The oversized intake seems very easy to fix. Regarding the belly strap, I purchased a resin part for my F-4S but if I did it again I’d just cut the requisite parts from thin styrene sheet (should be some drawings out there), that’s just far easier to work with. The wing angle correction is super easy to do, just cut the requisite angle into a piece of cardboard and use that as a fixture. Cheers, Marcel Thanks Marcel Yes I think I can fix those intakes fairly easily. The wing angle was something I was made aware of recently reading an article on the 48th Hasegawa ones. Same with the horizontal stabs at the back, having a flatter anhedral due to the Spey...but I am sure the kit has them corrected? I think I will make the strengthening plate on the bottom of the wing as you say, just track a decent drawing down. Probably those books I have been recommend will have a drawing. I think whilst I wait for this Kahu Skyhawk upgrade to come through to production I might look at starting 'another' kit LOL. Thanks again Anthony Marcel111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 hours ago, LSP_Ray said: Here is a pic from my review: There is some slope from top down to intake, whether it is enough I didn't take a pic from the right angle. At least with the intake as separate parts it is a little easier to deal with. I wonder also if you could use a 'regular' J intake and fair it in? Hmmm yes they do dont they? Thanks Ray, here's hoping when the kit gets here I can check some of these subtleties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Chek said: In all the photos I've seen, it doesn't appear to me that they do. However, there is a build over on Large Scale Modeller where the builder has made a very creditable job of depicting that higher 'shoulder'. I'm not on my regular PC or I'd post the link, but it should be discoverable. Edited to add: there are several threads on the HKM British Phantoms in this forum, a couple of which grew to contain epic amounts of info and detail photos. Well worth searching out. Thanks Chek, I think I have tracked down most Spey Phantom builds and conversions to start forming a better picture in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 As some of you may know, my conversion and kit arrived last week. I can confirm the new fuselage dosent appear to have that shoulder on the intake line. I had never noticed it before and it is hard to spot, but I will correct it. Marcel111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hiya mate, I have a full set of photos I took for a certain manufacturers proposed kit - lots of shape and detail stuff - if interested I'll add you to the relevant folder. I still want to do an F-4K and *may* end up converting the Tamiya kit if there's no further news in the next 12 months, or so... Any idea which scheme you'll do? Iain Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I still get a tingle when I see one of those conversions , I had one on order , and it was ready to ship the night CE bit the big one According to Alan of Bucc fame , there may be a Resin FAR F-4K hitting the shelves later this summer, with a 1/32 Specat Jaguar following closly behind it ,since I've got my name down for one each of them , I'll let you know how things turn out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Iain said: Hiya mate, I have a full set of photos I took for a certain manufacturers proposed kit - lots of shape and detail stuff - if interested I'll add you to the relevant folder. I still want to do an F-4K and *may* end up converting the Tamiya kit if there's no further news in the next 12 months, or so... Any idea which scheme you'll do? Iain Iain, that sounds good mate! I really want to get this right. Still not sure which scheme, thinking overall boring Grey with a Blue, Black or white fin (depending on sqn) Also there are panel line and detail differences between the FG-1 and FGR-2 Trying to figure out if the splitter (variable ramp) plates were different... Edited April 23, 2020 by Anthony in NZ Derek B and Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Man these things are a minefield! I think I just have to pick an airframe and base it on that one. Depending on if it was an FG-1 moved to the RAF or a straight FGR-2 . Also when in its service life you are modelling it? Bits even swapped between versions towards the end. There is so much to take into consideration..... Looks like the ramps might be the same on initial inspection...edit: no slightly different. I've got to go to bed.... Edited April 23, 2020 by Anthony in NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 It is a minefield - but then a lot of other airframes are too - lots of modifications during the life of an airframe - especially cockpit fit. Still - it kept me gainfully employed for a few years, when I wrote the Simulator AP updates for a number of MoD aircraft, including the Phantom. We'd just finished completely refurbing the simulators - and still had the fourth in the workshops - when MoD pulled the plug on the Phantom fleet - a little earlier than expected at the time. Hopefully you've got an email about photos Iain Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hi Anthony, Checking some image I kindly received from from warriormcv some years ago (I do not have immediate access to the measurements Iain and I took), the maximum intake width (at approximately mid-point) is 45 cm (17") and the maximum intake height at the inboard (fuselage) side, as maesured along the intake splitter plate is 115 cm (approx. 45.25"). HTH Derek Anthony in NZ and Iain 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 The Airfix 1:72 kit is reputed to be very accurate shapewise, and I know they accommodated some panel differences between the F-4K and F-4M (or FG.1 and FGR.2 if you prefer). Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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