DOUBT New silent compressor?

[Mel]

Well guys as the title says is about which compressor to buy.  

As I said in my presentation, I used to live in a house and I could make noise because it didn't bother anyone (it didn't have neighbors neither upstairs nor down) so I had a compressor that made a lot of noise (total ... in that house it didn't bother no one).

Now I live in an apartment, I have neighbors above and below, we are a three-story block (I am living in the middle) but the construction quality of these floors is not that it is the best in the world, I wanted a quiet compressor with a good Deposit

My intention will be to paint day and night, I will use it for many hours

I have seen these compressors where Decibels are "low" (but I don't know if they are real Decibels or not)

Anyway, I'm really confused and I don't want to spend my money and then buy something that isn't for me.

I leave a couple of compressors that I have seen

I am looking for it to be silent and with a good boiler

 

Possible purchases:

 

 

Fengda FD-196A:

 

 

Information on the pressure regulator: 0 - 10 Bar (0-100 PSI)
* 3.5L air tank, ensures air stability
* Safety / drain valve
* Automatic overheat protection
* Voltage: 220-240 V / 50 Hz
* Power: 0123 kW (1/6 HP)
* Speed: 1450/1700 rpm
* Noise level: 47 dB / 1m
* Volume of displaced: 35-40 l / min
* Air connection: G 1/8
* Cable length: 1.9m
* Certificates: CE, GS, ETL, CETL, ROHS
* Adjustable pressure: from 0 bar to 6 bar
* Auto start at less than 3 bar (43PSI)
* Automatic stop at 4 bar (57PSI)

 

 

Air Line Airbrush Compressor:

 

 

 

Air Line Compressor (3L boiler)

 

This compressor is ideal for both the airbrush who is starting and for those who already have a medium level. With a flow of 20-23 L / Min you can work with any type of airbrush (even the thickest ones). It also comes with a 3L boiler that will allow you to work it for longer. Includes moisture filter, pressure gauge, discharge valve and automatic stop at 4 and 6 bars.

 

 

     - Oil Free Piston Compressor with Boiler:

    - Power: 1/6 Cv

    - Flow: 23L / Min

    - Auto stop: 4 bars

    - Auto Start: 3 bars

    - Boiler: 3L

    - Anti-humidity filter

    - Noise: 44 dB

    - Weight: 5.2 Kg

 

 

 

SIL AIR 30 Silent Compressor (with oil):

 

Personally, I don't like that it carries oil (too many complications)

 

 

 

 

Technical characteristics SIL-AIR 30:

- Electric current: 220-240 Vol / 50 Hrz.

- Expulsion L / min: 25 L / min.

- Pressure: 8 bars.

- Power: 200 watts.

- Acoustic noise: 40 decibels.

- Prisoner: 22 kg.

- Tank: 4 liters.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Mel

[Mel]

13 minutes ago, Jennings Heilig said:

A CO2 setup produces zero decibels and has no moving parts, no oil, no moisture (ever).  And really no more expensive than a compressor.

Hi Jennings, I don't know this system, forgive my ignorance but I've been out of the model for 4 years

Edited September 4, 2019 by Mel

[Dave Williams]

1 minute ago, Mel said:

Hi Jennings, I don't know this system, forgive my ignorance but I've been out of the model for 4 years

 

It’s getting a tank of compressed CO2 and getting it refilled when it runs out.

[Mel]

7 minutes ago, Dave Williams said:

 

It’s getting a tank of compressed CO2 and getting it refilled when it runs out.

It seems interesting, I will look at it calmly, regarding the compressors I have shown what opinion they have?

[steinerman]

Mel, for your information, decibels (db) is measured on a logarithmic scale.  That means that for every 6 db roughly the noise level is double.  For example, a unit that produces 46db is twice as noisy as a unit that is rated at 40db

[Jan_G]

Hi Mel

I used to have Air Line Compressor as shown above in your post (same model but from other producer I thinkIt was called Royal) and it was quite niosy

2 years ago I bought Sil-AIR TC-15 so smaller model of the Sil-AIR from your post and it has noise around 30 decibels (according to parametres provided). It's huge difference regarding the noise so I would recommend you to go for oil compressor, and Sil-AIR should be trouble free. 

I didnt have any issue in past 2 years, no special care required and I'm using it a lot 

the previous compressor was overheating during longer sessions (typically around 40min), while with oil compresor currently I have no trouble to run it for 1-2 hours

HTH

jan

Edited September 4, 2019 by Jan_G

[cbk57]

If I had to buy a compressor, I would buy a good used Iwata at the moment.  Especially if I wanted to save money.  Otherwise I would buy a new iwata.  I have had a really loud compressor, I had a compressor before that that was not so loud but had no tank or water trap.  I have used an Iwata for quite a few years now and would not use anything else.

 

My Iwata, is quiet, it works, it has a water trap and pressure regulator.  It does not have a tank, just uses the pressure in the line but I love it.  Would not use anything else.  I have had it for over 10 years now and love it.  

Edited September 4, 2019 by cbk57

[Mel]

1 hour ago, steinerman said:

Mel, for your information, decibels (db) is measured on a logarithmic scale.  That means that for every 6 db roughly the noise level is double.  For example, a unit that produces 46db is twice as noisy as a unit that is rated at 40db

 

I did not know, I was looking for youtube videos on these compressors those of maximum 47 Db but each video is different (in some it sounds "strong" and in other videos it seems a weak sound)

It’s good to know your explanation

 

1 hour ago, Jan_G said:

Hi Mel

I used to have Air Line Compressor as shown above in your post (same model but from other producer I thinkIt was called Royal) and it was quite niosy

2 years ago I bought Sil-AIR TC-15 so smaller model of the Sil-AIR from your post and it has noise around 30 decibels (according to parametres provided). It's huge difference regarding the noise so I would recommend you to go for oil compressor, and Sil-AIR should be trouble free. 

I didnt have any issue in past 2 years, no special care required and I'm using it a lot 

the previous compressor was overheating during longer sessions (typically around 40min), while with oil compresor currently I have no trouble to run it for 1-2 hours

HTH

jan

Regarding the sil air 15A, it is 30 db super quiet (I like that a lot) but the boiler is only 1.5L (very small)

My doubts about the sil air 15A:

 

-Even if the engine starts because of the low capacity of the boiler, can I still use the airbrush with the engine running? (being an ultra quiet engine, no problem if used with the engine started continuously (that's an advantage) am I wrong?)

 

-Another thing, the issue of oil ... I have read criticism that the oil comes out of the hose (I don't know if it's true) and it gives problems, is it true?

 

-Another question, when the engine starts or shuts down makes a lot of noise?

 

-About oil: how long do you have to change it? that's what I dislike a little on the subject of oil, I hope they are not weekly changes, at least it is minimum annual change

 

-The last question, does it have autonomy to be on for a long time? (basically paint without worry)

 

 

1 hour ago, cbk57 said:

If I had to buy a compressor, I would buy a good used Iwata at the moment.  Especially if I wanted to save money.  Otherwise I would buy a new iwata.  I have had a really loud compressor, I had a compressor before that that was not so loud but had no tank or water trap.  I have used an Iwata for quite a few years now and would not use anything else.

 

My Iwata, is quiet, it works, it has a water trap and pressure regulator.  It does not have a tank, just uses the pressure in the line but I love it.  Would not use anything else.  I have had it for over 10 years now and love it.  

I was watching iwata's but all, at least the ones I've seen are 50 dB (it's supposed to be a loud sound)

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Mel

[mgbooyv8]

Hi Mel,

I'll add my two cents worth.

Of the compressor types you showed, I would recommemd the Sil Air.

The compressor is the same type as in a fridge, that's why it is silent.

I have something comparable, giving reliable silent service for many years now.

The oil is not a concern, it is recommended to change it every year, but I have never bothered.

It all depends of course on the usage. If you use it every day, then a yearly oil change might be advisable.

I never had oil in my air flow. 

In combination with an air tank, a moist trap and a pressure regulator with auto-switch off, you can spray for hours and it is not a concern if you forget to switch it off.

 

Before my 'fridge engine' compressor, I had several piston ones and I share the experience of the others:

far too noisy and they tend to overheat.

Don't buy one if your budget allows a Sil-air or something similar.

 

Apparently, many airbrush compressors are manufactured in Spain and different brands are often the same type with a different badge.

 

Hope this helps and good luck with your choice!

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

[Mel]

27 minutes ago, mgbooyv8 said:

Hi Mel,

I'll add my two cents worth.

Of the compressor types you showed, I would recommemd the Sil Air.

The compressor is the same type as in a fridge, that's why it is silent.

I have something comparable, giving reliable silent service for many years now.

The oil is not a concern, it is recommended to change it every year, but I have never bothered.

It all depends of course on the usage. If you use it every day, then a yearly oil change might be advisable.

I never had oil in my air flow. 

In combination with an air tank, a moist trap and a pressure regulator with auto-switch off, you can spray for hours and it is not a concern if you forget to switch it off.

 

Before my 'fridge engine' compressor, I had several piston ones and I share the experience of the others:

far too noisy and they tend to overheat.

Don't buy one if your budget allows a Sil-air or something similar.

 

Apparently, many airbrush compressors are manufactured in Spain and different brands are often the same type with a different badge.

 

Hope this helps and good luck with your choice!

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

Hello mgbooyv8, I just just looked at the manufacturer's website, (the descriptions are a bit confusing) there is just one called Sil Air 20D that has 30 Db and the boiler is larger than the Sil air 15A

 

-Sil air 15A boiler volume 1.5  liters

https://kompressorenshop.de/product/sil-air-15a-fluesterkompressor/

 

-Sil Air 20D boiler volume 4 liters

https://kompressorenshop.de/product/sil-air-15d-fluesterkompressor/

 

Both compressors are 30Db

I don't know if I'm wrong, but it's what he puts on his official website (I don't think they lie)

 

general web 

 

https://kompressorenshop.de/produkt-kategorie/fluesterkompressoren/

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Mel

[monthebiff]

I purchased a silair 30 last year and super happy with it. It's as quite as the compressor on a fridge freezer so you can barely hear it run. Nothing to worry about being an oil cooled machine in fact that's why its so quite

 

Regards. Andy.

[Mel]

19 minutes ago, monthebiff said:

I purchased a silair 30 last year and super happy with it. It's as quite as the compressor on a fridge freezer so you can barely hear it run. Nothing to worry about being an oil cooled machine in fact that's why its so quite

 

Regards. Andy.

thanks for answer Andy, I've been watching on the official website, and the Sil Air 30 is 40 dB (I don't mean not to be silent) but the 20D has the same characteristics but has 30db, according to the website...

[mgbooyv8]

Hi Mel,

 

That Silair 15A boiler you linked is similar to what I have and its boiler is big enough for single airbrush work..

I must say it has a very sharp action prize at that vendor!

 

I buy my airbrush stuff in a specialist shop, near Amsterdam. They have a good website, also in English and sell a lot of different compressors and other airbrush stuff.

I stand corrected by them, most compressors are not made in spain but in Italy.

Here's the link:

https://www.airbrush-services-almere.com/compressoren/fluisterstille-compressoren.html

 

If it appears in Dutch, click on the small flag on the top right corner for English.

I'm not related to them, just a happy customer.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

Edited September 4, 2019 by mgbooyv8
typo corrected

[Mel]

51 minutes ago, mgbooyv8 said:

Hi Mel,

 

That Silair 15A boiler you linked is similar to what I have and its boiler is big enough for single airbrush work..

I must say it has a very sharp action prize at that vendor!

 

I buy my airbrush stuff in a specialist shop, near Amsterdam. They have a good website, also in English and sell a lot of different compressors and other airbrush stuff.

I stand corrected by them, most compressors are not made in spain but in Italy.

Here's the link:

https://www.airbrush-services-almere.com/compressoren/fluisterstille-compressoren.html

 

If it appears in Dutch, click on the small flag on the top right corner for English.

I'm not related to them, just a happy customer.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

Thanks for your reply, in this store are serious people?

I just noticed one thing

See the characteristics of SIL AIR 20D on the manufacturer's website

And look at the characteristics of the same compressor on the Dutch website

In the description someone was wrong, the manufacturer or the store?

 

Sil Air 20D 30 Db

https://kompressorenshop.de/product/sil-air-20d-fluester-kompressor/

 

 

Sil Air 20D  38 Db (A)

https://www.airbrush-services-almere.com/p134-sil-air-20d.html

 

I don't get it

[Aptivaboy]

People will laugh at me, but it works - try the Kopykake compressor. Its intended for bakers and cake decorators, but is very quiet. Some have air pressure regulators, some don't. Mine doesn't and quite frankly, it works fine without it. There's no reservoir so it will turn on everytime to depress the airbrush trigger but as I said, its quiet. I live in a condo and my neighbors have never heard it. 

 

https://www.kopykake.com/airbrushes-and-compressors/