Finn Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Here is another glass nose version, looks like the tape had been removed, also note the hand/foot holds: here is a crew getting ready to board: Jari Edited October 15, 2019 by Finn Out2gtcha, Martinnfb, Learstang and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zactoman Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I think the cowl shape may look more off than it is because the cowl flaps are open. I did a quick photo-shop with them closed: Again, I do think the shape is off, just maybe not as bad as it appears. I'm more concerned about the other shapes and details. WARNING: Cold Water alert! If you don't want to read about potential problems with the kit please skip the rest of this post. I'm not kicking HB, just the kit that I have seen in the pictures... First, they're calling it an A-26C but the box art shows an A-26B which was featured on a Bombshell Decals sheet (page 2 of pics, last pic): http://www.hyperscale.com/2012/reviews/decals/bombshell48bs013reviewbf_1.htm The canopy on the kit appears to be the early flat top rather than the bulged clamshell version. I assume they will include both in the box as the box-art plane had the clamshell canopy. It also has the ventral turret, so I assume they will include that in the kit as well. As for shapes: The upper nose glass looks much too bulbous. It's pretty streamlined on the real thing. High-rez pic here: https://media.defense.gov/2010/Jun/18/2000556599/-1/-1/0/090609-F-1234K-005.JPG The canopy side panes should extend further down as should the lower corners of the windscreen. If you draw a line along the lower side pane it should be just below the top of the wing intersection (or is the top of the wing too low?). The continuous curve shape of the windscreen intersection leads me to believe that the forward fuselage is too rounded or the windscreen itself is mis-shapen. The side panes should be flat and almost vertical. They appear to be curved and angling inward. The upper fuselage sides (between the windscreen and rear glass) should be flat with a relatively small radius on the top corner. This is pretty obvious when looking at the corner intersections of the glass areas. The kit appears to have curved sides with a pretty big radius along the top corner. Pic found here (lots of good pics!): https://hiveminer.com/Tags/douglas%2Cinvader/Recent The turret also appears to be too small in diameter. This is likely what they had to do to accommodate the fuselage shape that they made. Had they made it a larger diameter it would have appeared to dive down too much on the sides because of the larger fuselage corner radii. The shape of the turret also looks off. It should have a flatter curve. What they have looks more like the turret was replaced with a fuel tank as shown on the Bombshell sheet listed above (3rd pic in review). I'm going to stop here for now... Disclosure: I know almost nothing about the A-26 but I do like the plane. I built the Airfix kit when I was a kid. I more recently began gathering reference material for a 1/48 project that never got off the ground and in gathering those references became somewhat familiar with the plane. Martinnfb, Alain Gadbois, Vandy 1 VX 4 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hi Zactoman! Your observations are right on! The shape of the upper fuselage is much too rounded and your photo shows it very well. It seemed the cowl shape problem is a very minor one compared to what you have pointed out! I hope the model is a preliminary 3D print that can be changed before metal is cut. And being delirious now: Trumpeter/Hobbyboss are actually reading this topic and reworking the parts so the kit that comes out will be perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikka Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 i will still buy and build one . i cant even see the problems with zactoman's map . it looks means and hopefully will be priced like the B-24 . a lot of AM stuff will be released for it so the easy bits will be fixed . Vandy 1 VX 4 and Martinnfb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Here are several pics from Life of the A/B-26 in Korea for those interested in details: http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0a881dec29b70caa_large http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ad818a04fabf7327_large http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/3498b6854dc6b511_large http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/16ec2db4633ddf4e_large http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/1ba91acb07201fbe_large Jari Edited October 15, 2019 by Finn Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Part 2: bare skin-less pylon, with rocket stubs: full pylon, also note one of the wing guns has been removed: Jari Martinnfb, LSP_K2, nmayhew and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Thanks Zactoman for your observations. We'll certainly see what we get! I'm curious, what do you glean from the original image on Page 1? The fuselage there seems much more appropriate than what we were shown a few weeks ago. - Dennis S. Thornton, CO USA Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Forgot this one showing the back side of the prop blade: Jari Martinnfb and nmayhew 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 th top turret in this pic looks different to the museum plane in chris´post, were there two turrets? 8 hours ago, Finn said: Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 what do we know about that museum bird? is the turret original for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Do not hope the kit will be modified because of a cross section or canopy shape issue. It won't. If you have any view on the amount of CAD and mold cutting work to correct that, you know this is not financially realistic. Too bad but that is a fact. They announced the release and will not postpone the release to mid-2020 to solve that. Alburymodeler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis7423 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, blackbetty said: th top turret in this pic looks different to the museum plane in chris´post, were there two turrets? What you're seeing here is a fuel tank modification in place of where the upper turret would normally be. - Dennis S. Thornton, CO USA Shawn M and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 i learn something new every day. if we leave off the guns on the kit we will have a fuel tank at least... PhilB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, blackbetty said: i learn something new every day. if we leave off the guns on the kit we will have a fuel tank at least... Not really, it’s a completely different shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 i like to have a kit as a canvas - it's a shame it's got flaws it seems and that is frustrating when it's a new design and the info is available, but fixing things is all part of the fun right I would rather have a few corrections to make than nothing at all to start with.. Peter Learstang, thierry laurent, scvrobeson and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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