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Hello again, all.  After a couple of non LSP kits, I decided I'd get back to the Master Scale.  My lovely wife bought me the MkVIII Spit for Father's Day, so I thought I'd get right to it.  I just have to say, this is, as we all expect from Tamiya LSPs, a beautiful kit.  It could be built straight out of the box and look fantastic.  So, naturally, I bought a bunch of after market :frantic:.  Actually, as I'll discuss later, I think I may have actually bought too much aftermarket (is such a thing even possible?)

 

I went with HGW seat belts, Barracuda decals and cockpit upgrades, the Eduard exterior photoetch set, and a Yahu IP.  My first attempt at HGW belts had been frustrating, so I have left that part for now.  I do, however, want to talk about the interior resin upgrade set.  It is of course, beautiful work from Roy as always.  However, more to the praise of Tamiya than to the detriment of Barracuda, I'm not sure that it is that much better than the kit parts.  I've posted below some comparison photos of the relevant parts.

 

The seat is the one clear winner for me.  Fortunately it's sold as a separate piece.  Tamiya elected not to mold the very prominent backrest cushion, which Barracuda has corrected.  The other thing I do love about these particular parts is that they're made to be drop in replacements to the kit parts, complete with attachement points of the correct shape to fit to the sidewall. (I have since removed the flare rack from the front of the seat, which to my understanding is not correct for this mark. 

 

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The compass is nearly identical. I honestly can't even tell you which is which in this photo

 

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The throttle quadrant does show a couple of nice additional details, but the kit part is very good on its own. As you can see, I still struggle with cleanly separating parts from the casting block.  That handle is askance because I had to glue it back on after breaking it during sawing. 

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Undercarriage controls.  Again, a few nice details, but not a stark contrast as there is with some kits. 

 

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The control column.  The barracuda part comes with wire and asks you to drill three tiny holes to accommodate them.  I used a #80 drill bit but still managed to break the part.  I ended up using the kit part, with the resin handpiece, which does add some nice detail where the lines attach. 

 

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Sidewall painted up with paint scraped away for the bulkhead attachments. 

 

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Rather than try to drill again and ruin my only remaining control stick, I used lead wire and just cut it where it's meant to be going through, picking it back up on the other side. 

 

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Some solder added for the hydraulic lines from the undercarriage lever. 

 

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For some unknown reason, Tamiya have chosen to leave very prominent defects in this door.  After trying unsucessfully to fill and sand them, I scraped away the detail, smoothed it over with some Bondo, and re-added the detail by scratch.  The open door below shows that in progress.

 

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I deviated from the instructions and added the sidewalls to the fuselage halves so that I could add some wiring.  I just noticed on the second picture that I'm missing a couple of bits that still need to be glued down on the starboard side.  These upclose photos also unfortunately are demonstrating my sloppy painting.  I usually brush paint Model Master Acryl semi gloss black for these parts, but have been unable to get it appropriately thinned - it either runs everywhere or goes on too thick, as below.  I'm expecting a bottle of UMP universal thinner, which I'm going to try on it before switching brands entirely, but does anyone else have a favored paint for this?  I prefer not to try to mask and spray all these little parts, so brush painting is a must.

 

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Control column and rudder pedals.  There is a trick of the light, here, the starboard  pedal has not suffered from green overspray.  I added straps to the rudder pedals from Tamiya tape.

 

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Here's my door.  Need to clean it up a little still.  Waiting on a new bottle of MRP RAF interior green.  The crowbar has yet to be built, but I am thinking that I'll whittle it out of styrene strip.

 

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While waiting for my Yahu panel to arrive, I decided to paint up the kit part.  It has the usual coke bottle effect on the instrument glass, due to the way Tamiya engineers them, but looks pretty good.  The Barracuda set also comes with placard decals.  I will add those as well, and may save this pre-made panel for the next 1/32 spit I do (there will definitely be another, as I love Spits and this kit - probably Skalski's MkIX). I just realized looking at this that I somehow lost the bottom three instrument decals!  D'oh!

 

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And the Barracuda resin seat.  First with a base coat of MRP ochre wood, then dabbed and swirled with some burnt siena and burnt umber oils for the Bakelite effect.  I was going to give this a top coat with MRP clear red brown, but I think it looks pretty good as is.  Thoughts?  

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Anyway, I'm about to go away for the holiday weekend, so I'll leave these oils to dry for a few days and hopefully my IP will be in the mail when I return!  Gloss, decals, washes, and seatbelts still to go before I can close up the fuselage halves.  Thanks for looking - as always comments criticisms are welcome!

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Beautiful work! I’m hoping to pick up the Tamiya Mk.IX (wish they did a Mk.I!) at some point, so it’s good to hear about where I can save on the after market! I’ll be following your build with much interest 

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Bstarr3..

 

SUPER start  on this iconic Warbird.:clap2:

I like the instrument panel and your workmanship is SPLENDID.

Seats look great too. :wow:

Keep it coming...

 

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26 minutes ago, curiouslysophie said:

Beautiful work! I’m hoping to pick up the Tamiya Mk.IX (wish they did a Mk.I!) at some point, so it’s good to hear about where I can save on the after market! I’ll be following your build with much interest 

Thanks, Sophie.  Welcome to the board! Tamiya have a brand new MkI in 1/48 scale that is supposed to be lovely. My .02 is that the seat, seatbelts, and, depending on your detail painting skills, IP, are worthwhile investments for aftermarket for this kit. 

 

15 minutes ago, MARU5137 said:

Bstarr3..

 

SUPER start  on this iconic Warbird.:clap2:

I like the instrument panel and your workmanship is SPLENDID.

Seats look great too. :wow:

Keep it coming...

 

Thanks!

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Posted (edited)

A Spitfire build? - count me in!

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50 minutes ago, Fanes said:

A Spitfir ebuild? - count me in!

I know, right? Doing my research and reading for this build, and then finally getting into the kit, I feel like I could be content building only spitfire subjects for a very long time before I got tired of them.

Want to pick up a Tamiya mkix in this scale, then their 1/48 mki, some 1/48 Eduards, I saw a great Belgian mkxvi in nmf with clipped wings....

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Looks great, I'm glad it's not just me with my sausage sized fingers that mangle those fine Barracuda resin parts, I never did manage the control column bit and knocked bits off the cockpit instruments even after the third Spitfire build. And all the builds had the Yahoo panels which I think look great

The seat looks right to me, I think you are correct to leave the cartridge rack off, this is what the late Edgar Brooks had to say on the subject

"The Verey cartridge rack is more usually associated with Seafires, since Spitfires had their own system (the hole about halfway along the spine.) This was rather like a sixgun body with shotgun-sized cartridges, operated by a pull-handle beside the left side of the seat, so there was no need for a second system. As the seats were completely interchangeable, though, it was entirely possible to "borrow" any seat that happened to be lying around. All this means that you can leave it off (which probably happened in the majority of cases,) or fit it, and nobody can say that you're wrong"

As to colour it looks pretty good to me, here are some more words of wisdom on the subject.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234926784-spitfire-seat-colours/

 

Cheers

 

Dennis

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Hi

 

Beware, the kit depicts a Mk IX interior and the MkVIII had a fairly different interior (ask me how i found out)

 

Vincent

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53 minutes ago, Bstarr3 said:

I know, right? Doing my research and reading for this build, and then finally getting into the kit, I feel like I could be content building only spitfire subjects for a very long time before I got tired of them.

Want to pick up a Tamiya mkix in this scale, then their 1/48 mki, some 1/48 Eduards, I saw a great Belgian mkxvi in nmf with clipped wings....

We still need a decent Mk.Vb and Vc - I got lots of plans for Spitfires loacted in Malta B)

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2 hours ago, dennismcc said:

Looks great, I'm glad it's not just me with my sausage sized fingers that mangle those fine Barracuda resin parts, I never did manage the control column bit and knocked bits off the cockpit instruments even after the third Spitfire build. And all the builds had the Yahoo panels which I think look great

The seat looks right to me, I think you are correct to leave the cartridge rack off, this is what the late Edgar Brooks had to say on the subject

"The Verey cartridge rack is more usually associated with Seafires, since Spitfires had their own system (the hole about halfway along the spine.) This was rather like a sixgun body with shotgun-sized cartridges, operated by a pull-handle beside the left side of the seat, so there was no need for a second system. As the seats were completely interchangeable, though, it was entirely possible to "borrow" any seat that happened to be lying around. All this means that you can leave it off (which probably happened in the majority of cases,) or fit it, and nobody can say that you're wrong"

As to colour it looks pretty good to me, here are some more words of wisdom on the subject.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234926784-spitfire-seat-colours/

 

Cheers

 

Dennis

Thanks, Dennis, for the excellent references on seat colors/materials as well as the flare rack!

1 hour ago, Vincent/MDC said:

Hi

 

Beware, the kit depicts a Mk IX interior and the MkVIII had a fairly different interior (ask me how i found out)

 

Vincent

Thanks, Vincent. I was thinking of doing Fargo Express, because I love a desert paint scheme, but didnt want to be compared to your incredibly detailed build.  I will re-read to your build thread to see if theres anything big I can fix now. But otherwise, I'll be content with not quite right.

1 hour ago, Fanes said:

We still need a decent Mk.Vb and Vc - I got lots of plans for Spitfires loacted in Malta B)

I do love a Malta Spit! I've done Airfix's MkVb in 1/48, which was a very decent kit, but for 1/32, we're limited to the old Hobby Boss, aren't we?

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9 hours ago, Bstarr3 said:

Thanks, Vincent. I was thinking of doing Fargo Express, because I love a desert paint scheme, but didnt want to be compared to your incredibly detailed build.  I will re-read to your build thread to see if theres anything big I can fix now. But otherwise, I'll be content with not quite right.

Maybe another Mk.VIII in desert camo like QJ-D (JP476), FL-C (JF630),HB (JF330) or HL-U? - all HFs included in the 1/48 eduard kits. My favourite is one of those HF VIIIs in medium sea grey/PRU blue (JF364) ;)

 

9 hours ago, Bstarr3 said:

I do love a Malta Spit! I've done Airfix's MkVb in 1/48, which was a very decent kit, but for 1/32, we're limited to the old Hobby Boss, aren't we?

So far yes and no. There was a rumor that Revell might release a Mk.V after their II and IX. Adiitionally there are conversion kits from real model for a Vb and Vc based on the Revell Mk.II (in my opinion there are some parts from a IXc kit needed), too. For a Malta Spit one has to source the dust filter elsewhere.

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here's a couple of desert scheme planes for you, and as a bonus they don't have the pointy wingtips which i think look ghastly - quite the opposite in fact, with clipped wings instead!

 

 

 

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and this is my favourite...

 

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47 minutes ago, nmayhew said:

here's a couple of desert scheme planes for you, and as a bonus they don't have the pointy wingtips which i think look ghastly - quite the opposite in fact, with clipped wings instead!

 

 

 

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and this is my favourite...

 

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The second one is a beauty indeed!

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the second one is nice also as it shows the seat with the bottom armor that Tamiya forgot to provide !

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5 hours ago, Fanes said:

Maybe another Mk.VIII in desert camo like QJ-D (JP476), FL-C (JF630),HB (JF330) or HL-U? - all HFs included in the 1/48 eduard kits. My favourite is one of those HF VIIIs in medium sea grey/PRU blue (JF364) ;)

 

So far yes and no. There was a rumor that Revell might release a Mk.V after their II and IX. Adiitionally there are conversion kits from real model for a Vb and Vc based on the Revell Mk.II (in my opinion there are some parts from a IXc kit needed), too. For a Malta Spit one has to source the dust filter elsewhere.

I saw somebody did a build thread of one of those high altitude grey over blue spits. It was a very nice look. 

 

How is the Revell kit? Cant have a collection of spits without a BoB MkII, so I was thinking of picking that kit up.

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