BiggTim Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I don't care about all that, I'm sure as hell gonna watch it, and probably enjoy myself. Out2gtcha, ringleheim and Mel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogrfan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, D.B. Andrus said: Melodrama with bad music & CGI? In other words "Pearl Harbor 2.0". ringleheim and Mel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 3:30 PM, MikeC said: Yes indeed. I'll definitely pass on this. Makes one appreciate the 1976 Charlton Heston et al film all the more. yes, it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Wow how to make something potentially interesting into an over-blown CGI joke. At least with sci-fi it can be ironic. This looks like Independence Day with a WW2 theme, half expect some alien space ships to jump out. Well I might watch it, but it looks and sounds like another Pear Harbour (not Tora, Tora, Tora which isn't my era but I actually thought was a pretty cool movie.) nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I endured the 2nd trailer up until the point when a Dauntless pilot does a tail slide that wouldn't disgrace a world Aerobatic Championship contender, at that point , I threw my headphones across the room, and vowed to never see this steaming pile of Dog "Leavings!" Hopefully someone with a stronger stomach will manage to sit through it and let us know just how bad it really is! ColinR nmayhew and coogrfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 excuse my french but yup that's f*cking woeful CGI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 2:58 PM, BiggTim said: I don't care about all that, I'm sure as hell gonna watch it, and probably enjoy myself. At the end of the day, this is how I feel about it too. It does look pretty schlocky and some of the computer work is terrible...but come on! It's a movie about the battle of Midway and some of the shots in the trailer looked very cool...like the Japanese carrier fleet cruising along out at sea. It will definitely get the modeling juices flowing for something from the Pacific theatre, for me at least. BiggTim and Jan_G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just saw a commercial for this just now. I guess it opens up this Friday, Nov. 8th. It has been pretty heavily advertised and every time I see the CGI stuff in the ads, it looks worse and worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I think I am going to take my 14 year old son on the weekend. The wife is out of town I think we will enjoy it. Not going to worry about the negatives. Jan_G and ringleheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hegedus Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 20 hours ago, cbk57 said: I think I am going to take my 14 year old son on the weekend. The wife is out of town I think we will enjoy it. Not going to worry about the negatives. Yeah, my 13-year old wants to see it, so we're going tonight. Jan_G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe Hegedus said: Yeah, my 13-year old wants to see it, so we're going tonight. Please post a mini-review after you see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Compliments of TOCH forums: As bad as expected Review: ‘Midway’ turns the WW II battle into a cartoon by Mark Kennedy The first thing director Roland Emmerich should do after his latest movie “Midway” hits theaters is apologize. Apologize to the visual effects crew, the stuntmen, the carpenters, the costumers and artists. He has squandered their considerable visual skill in retelling the crucial World War II battle at Midway by melding some of the best action sequences in years with the most banal of words. What’s the point of scouring 1941 Navy regulations to ground the real-life characters in authentic military gear if they say stuff like this: “I guess every battle needs a miracle.” What’s the point of locating the original blueprints of a gun, and then carefully recreating it, if the script calls for an airman to tell his pilot: “You fly like you don’t care if we come home.” Emmerich has turned ”Midway ” into another of his films, “Independence Day,” which was cartoony but worked because we knew it was over the top. Here, the director has taken real, living men who acted heroically and turned them into pulp comic strip characters. He might need to apologize to them the most. Screenwriter Wes Tooke has apparently never seen a cliche he didn’t want to embrace. His script is as textured and nuanced as an upbeat newsreel from the ’40s. No, there’s no young G.I nicknamed Brooklyn, but there are hotshot flyboys who stick their chewing gum next to a photo of their wives in the cockpit during dogfights. Tooke’s one-dimensional characters help the plot along by stating only the very obvious, like “If we lose, we lose the Pacific” and “This place is a powder keg.” (Keep that last one in mind; stuff will blow up and it will be called foreshadowing.) The Battle of Midway took place between June 4-7, 1942, and pitted Japanese Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto, architect of the raid on Pearl Harbor, against U.S. Navy Adm. Chester Nimitz. The U.S. had been stung by the sneak attack in Hawaii and were underdogs in the Pacific. But the U.S. Navy, having cracked Japan’s code system, anticipated Japanese naval movements and gained the upper hand. The battle ended Japan’s aspirations of naval dominance in the Pacific and showed the Allies that victory was possible. Like its cousin in WW II filmed failure, the Ben Affleck-led “Pearl Harbor,” Emmerich has decided to tell this sprawling story using multiple characters, including showing the Japanese side. Hint: Everyone is brave. In the actual battle theater are the brave, bad-boy bomber pilot Dick Best (Ed Skrein), the brave but more cautious Clarence Dickinson (Luke Kleintank), the downhome brave Admiral William “Bull” Halsey (Dennis Quaid), the swaggeringly brave Jimmy Doolittle (Aaron Eckhart) and the brave and cocksure Bruno Gaido (a mustachioed Nick Jonas, reaching the very limits of his acting skills). You can instantly tell why these actors signed up. Jonas gets to shoot an anti-aircraft artillery gun at a plunging Japanese Zero and prove his courage. “That was the bravest damn thing I’ve ever seen. What’s your name, son?” an awed officer says. Skrein, as Best, gets to be a daredevil pilot who is admired by everyone. “Men like Dick Best are the reason we’re gonna win this war,” says one awed pilot. Eckhart gets to strut about in a leather flying jacket and look awesome. Onshore there are the brave intelligence officer Edwin Layton (Patrick Wilson) and the brave outside-the-box Nimitz (Woody Harrelson). The Japanese are elegant, contained and brave, too, especially Yamamoto (Etsushi Toyokawa) and Rear Admiral Tamon Yamaguchi (Tadanobu Asano). Tooke has presumably met women in real life but really doesn’t prove here that he knows how they think or speak at all. They, too, are brave — frustrated that their men are constantly working hard at saving democracy but understanding. (One nicely declares to her exhausted spouse: “I’ll fix you a sandwich.”) Mandy Moore, utterly wasted as Best’s wife, says things like “I’ve never seen you this worried before” and “Come to bed.” We’re told she is a “firecracker.” It is hard to believe this film came after “Saving Private Ryan” and “Dunkirk.” Credit to Emmerich and his filmmakers for telling this battle from the air, ships and underwater (we get to see the staff of the USS Nautilus submarine) and the images are striking — gut-twisting bomber runs and pumping ammunition. But once again, even in the face of this cinematic and real-life triumph, the dialogue is paper thin. “We did it!” says a pilot at the end, after they obviously did it. Another, dropping ordnance onto a Japanese carrier, states the obvious: “This is for Pearl.” ″Midway” might be a film best watched if you switch off the volume. “Midway,” a Lionsgate release, is rated PG-13 for “sequences of war violence and related images, language and smoking.” Running time: 138 minutes. One star out of four. https://apnews.com/8f51f41b374b450f912513a3cf0b9f79 I can't comment on the review, having not seen the movie (nor do I intend to), but post this for information purposes only. Mark Proulx Lothar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATCplSlade Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Exactly as I predicted as soon as I saw Emmerich's name attached. Y'all want a good war movie? Make it yourself because Hollywood never will. Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, CATCplSlade said: Y'all want a good war movie? Make it yourself because Hollywood never will. That's an excellent point. I've watched a number of foreign efforts at war films, too and most fall short in some way or another. Most seem to think that some plot is necessary. Whether it be a love triangle, ghost tank, or saving the sole male son of a family, someone must think it a rule: Thou shalt have a plot! Saving Private Ryan was a good movie... but not because of the plot. I applaud them using CGI to fill the role of missing material. Maybe someday somebody will get good at making it simulate what we think is war. Jan_G and RBrown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Mark Kermode , on of the UK's best film Critics reviewed this film , and to Paraphrase him "It makes Michael Bay's Pearl Harbour look like an Epic".. I rather think that says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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