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....requesting help,advice re applying wash over enamel

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On 6/8/2019 at 6:31 PM, Sunday Puncher Tonk said:

 after a clear coat of floor wax and looks great,and now apprehensively dipping my toes into the panel line/pinwash proceedure....I have airbrushed the A6 in enamel paint,and from what I understand,after applying clear coat/'varnish' I brush on the wash...dry  a bit-then wipe off with water in desired areas with paper towels or swabs....

 

Floor wax is acrylic , so if you applied the water based wash over that,  you should

be able to remove the clear and wash with alcohol without touching the enamel.

 

:hi:

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Ryan said:

Mike, wouldn't the allkeehol dissolve the future too?

 

 

Ive found that myself, even using 70%, occasionally some will break through the layer of Future. Hence, I stopped using Future as a clear and relegated it to dipping can-O-peas.

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I use rubbing alcohol to remove future clear from my canopies (when I need to redo it). It works really well.

So "-computer says: no" to any alcohol on futured surfaces

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On 6/11/2019 at 4:57 AM, Ryan said:

Mike, wouldn't the allkeehol dissolve the future too?

 

Ryan

 

Sure , but I thot he wanted to start over. If the wash is unsatisfactory it's likely

because the clear coat wasn't glossy enough. Cleaning just the unsatisfactory

surfaces with alcohol would allow a fresh coat of future without worrying about

the surrounding surfaces.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Ryan said:

Mike I took it the other way that he just wanted to tidy up the area, sorry for the miscommunication.

 

Ryan

,,,,yup,I wanted to tidy it up a bit,though I wasnt worried terribly about it since it was an inboard pylon...I was more concerned about what I may have done wrong and didnt want to mess up thje rest of the model...I was following the procedure I had seen written elsewhere and it didnt seem to be working "as advertised"...it said enamel paint ,then coat of Future-or 'varnish' before applying decals and wash...

...I just couldnt seem to get dried areas off and didnt want that on rest of model-but the AK Paneliner has worked perfectly and I am continuing to use it with success so far....I'm thinking that my initial application of enamel paint in some areas of the model were a little 'rough'....not applied correctly,therefore resulting in the difficulty of removing the excess dried wash....that even though I had it well coated with the Future,it had settled into the lower areas and was not going to come out unless I re-did the paint job....but alls well that ends well...all your answers have steered me down the right path,and I've learned another lesson for the next model down the line.....actually-the next 5 models that are lined up on the runway waiting for takeoff...:lol:....thank you all very much for your help...:D

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Good man, washes really suck and I avoid them at all costs. A good practice is to preshade your parts to assist the wash blending, the wash doesn't have to work as hard to create the effect.

 

If you really want to see a different approach to washes and emphasizing detail take a look a work from JM Villalba. He hardly uses washes and employees the airbrush to shade.

And there is the rub, you trade controlling washes to controlling the airbrush! Its hard to argue with his results though.

 

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS754US754&biw=1920&bih=928&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=5osDXbTWFc-4sQWD25jQCA&q=jm+villalba+tips&oq=jm+villalba+tips&gs_l=img.3...34150.35511..36759...0.0..0.84.376.5......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39.OdZouHnPkks#imgrc=AToXzTNORyVjnM:

 

I like the outlining and style he uses and you see that in my work, but the only way I can pull it off is with the enamel wash and then surgical clean up.

 

44630846275_0790f80e5b_c.jpgRed Baron by The 3rd Placer, on Flickr

 

41036260091_21f48991d3_c.jpgUntitled by The 3rd Placer, on Flickr

 

Ryan

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…..wow....interesting...I've sort of stumbled across that pre-shading procedure and used it on this model(though I see I did it much wider-not as precisely,but it kinda worked)….as I said before,this was a learning experience after a 20 year gap,and I'm sooooo glad I got back into this,and all this info and tips you share on this site is greatly appreciated.....and after this,my first 1/32,I aint goin' back to 1/48....I'm hooked on detail:lol:...I served with an A-6 squadron during the Vietnam years,and have tons of pics I took on the flight deck and stateside for plenty of reference on details....when I took them,I never thought they would come in handy after almost 50 years later:D

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