dodgem37 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 That all looks just so excellent. Great show. Sincerely, Mark Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Looking excellent, John! Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vincent Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Here, on this G10, you can a variation of the breather placement On the K4 it was supposed to come out in a perfect round hole separate of the ejection chute. On this G10 they share the same cut. The panel behing the chutes is a modern piece and should not be used as reference for a K4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the great comments and the additional info about the G-10 breather placement! And thanks to the generosity of an LSP member, I've received MDC resin exhaust chutes so I don't have to make my own. Thanks Damian! These have a curved surface on the downwind edge of the chute that would've been hard to replicate. I've performed some corrections to the central belly portion based on an excellent article by Vince K. These include filling in the vent in the center, opening up the Mk 108 chute and putting in some breather outlets for the engine. Some questions were asked along the way regarding components of the correction and Vince himself was kind enough to elaborate on the reasoning behind these changes. As you can see, the Mk108 chute needs to be blocked off since the wing spar part is visible. The exhaust tips have been previously hollowed out. There exhaust deflectors supplied as separate parts in this kit but they are on the thick side. Instead of trying to thin them, I thought it would be easier to replace them with brass sheeting. The port side deflector has a bend to deflect the hot exhausts away from the supercharger intake. Much better in-scale representation, I think! Edited May 11, 2019 by Thunnus Gazzas, Fanes, Greg W and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vincent Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Thunnus said: Thanks for the great comments and the additional info about the G-10 breather placement! And thanks to the generosity of an LSP member, I've received resin exhaust chutes so I don't have to make my own. Thanks Damian! These have a curved surface on the downwind edge of the chute that would've been hard to replicate. I've performed some corrections to the central belly portion based on an excellent article by Vince K. These include filling in the vent in the center, opening up the Mk 108 chute and putting in some breather outlets for the engine. Some questions were asked along the way regarding components of the correction and Vince himself was kind enough to elaborate on the reasoning behind these changes. As you can see, the Mk108 chute needs to be blocked off since the wing spar part is visible. The exhaust tips have been previously hollowed out. There exhaust deflectors supplied as separate parts in this kit but they are on the thick side. Instead of trying to thin them, I thought it would be easier to replace them with brass sheeting. The port side deflector has a bend to deflect the hot exhausts away from the supercharger intake. Much better in-scale representation, I think! Glorious work Notice the hole behind the right side exhaust stack ? It's the blast discharger for the Mk 108 so don't fill it ! In case it's not too late, i found a spare sheet of the k4 stencils i did for mdc. If you want one, drop me your adress via PM. The circuit breaker labels are quite handy and you also get the top wing root Mk108 air filler stencil (on the k4, the 2 compressed air bottles needed to operate the canon were stored in what used to be the 20mm ammo box on the G version. The 30mm rounds were stored in a bin above the canon the decals are the one on the right in this picture. I was able to get my hands on the k4 stencil instruction so they are accurate you also get the warning label on the rear hatch door instructing on the battery issue and how to replace it (item 4) Edited May 11, 2019 by Vincent/MDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vincent/MDC said: Glorious work Notice the hole behind the right side exhaust stack ? It's the blast discharger for the Mk 108 so don't fill it ! In case it's not too late, i found a spare sheet of the k4 stencils i did for mdc. If you want one, drop me your adress via PM. The circuit breaker labels are quite handy and you also get the top wing root Mk108 air filler stencil (on the k4, the 2 compressed air bottles needed to operate the canon were stored in what used to be the 20mm ammo box on the G version. The 30mm rounds were stored in a bin above the canon Ahhh... I was wondering about that hole so it is good to know that it is supposed to be there! Thanks for the offer... I will PM you right away! Thank you so much Vincent! I love LSP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahunaminor Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Great work John, Its also great to see the level of assistance from other members, particularly Vincent and what a great effort from Damien with the ejector fittings. Regards, Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Nice work, John! I've been guilty of accepting the thickness of the heat deflectors in the past. I thin you've inspired me to replace them in the future. Gaz Thunnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 For the detail oriented , the shields went up over the lip as seen below ... HTH Fanes, nmayhew, daHeld and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Nicely done. Mike, I think that return was underneath the closed cowling, and not seen unless the cowling was open. But I could be wrong. Sincerely, Mark MikeMaben and Thunnus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 You're right Mark. It's just a detail that might be interesting to the open cowling crowd. Thunnus and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Thank you, Mike. Sincerely, Mark MikeMaben and Thunnus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunnus Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Thank you for that engine shot and further details on the port exhaust shield. No engine or open cowling on my build! MikeMaben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fencer-1 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Regarding the MK108 shell ejection port. There is Kurfurst part catalogue (Ersatzteil-Liste) where the all removable panels presents. The panel we interested marked by #15 and it is Recht (Right), so the shell ejection port was on the right side of the plane. MK108 itself was "laying" on the right side and shells was extracted direct downward, so wasn't difference where to guide ejection chute. The right side was more convinient for shell ejection due to fuel tank shift to the left. Two more illustration from "Messerschmitt Bf 109 Einsatzmaschinen" book. There are some interesting details. Additional photo from manual shows ejection chute going to the right side and two filters installed on the left. Edited May 13, 2019 by Fencer-1 daHeld, MikeMaben, rafju and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafju Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 10:12 PM, Vincent/MDC said: the 2 compressed air bottles needed to operate the canon were stored in what used to be the 20mm ammo box on the G version. Hi All what an interesting thread, great job John @Thunnus, love that! Vincent, I remember reading in a Kagero book (TopDrawings 67) that those air bottles used by the Mk 108 were in the opposite wing which contain the O2 bottle, you can confirm about all please. TIA - Raph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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