Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Starfighter Jock

P-51D/K Fuselage Formation Lights

Recommended Posts

She's painted in RAF stock paints and was photographed on the Continent in 1945 I believe.  Someone here made a model of her not too long ago.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, John1 said:

What a pretty (IMO) Mustang.  Is it overall OD?   Almost looks like some grey is added.   Anyone have details on this aircraft?   For that matter, anyone know if there are aftermarket decals for her?   

 

There has been much controversy over the years on whether or not these 357th Mustangs were painted with US stocks of OD Green or RAF paint stocks, and if the undersides were painted in neutral grey or left in natural aluminum.  For myself, I just use interpretation of what my eye sees for colors anyway, I never try and match specific paint color chips.  Here is the link to a build here on the forum that features this Mustang.

  

Edited by Starfighter Jock
added text

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Another purty one I like, I made DIY paint masks for the new Revell kit. "Horses Itch", 357th FG Leiston Suffolk UK, 1944:

 

 

Horses%20Itch_4-XL.jpg

 

IMG_1940-X2.jpg

 

 

Although the chromatic film makes the nose and spinner look highly faded in the last pic the nose and spinner are NOT white. If you look closely at the first pic, you will see the demark lines for the typical 357th yellow and red checks and stripes respectively. 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Well, lets get our terms right.......Wing tip nav lights are on all aircraft and boats/ships/etc.(onStarboard, Red Port).....The 3 underwing lights on the Starboard wing are to signal the ground troops, IIRC.......The lights on Red Dog (photo above) are a very late war add...And there is little written info on this set of lights....Do not know if they were a factory add or a field add ( or both).........However they were the equivalent of todays "slime lights" onmost military aircraft...........Basicallyjust to let pilots know where their  wingman/other formation aircraft are.....

Edited by oldthudman5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, lets get our terms right.......Wing tip nav lights are on all aircraft and boats/ships/etc.(onStarboard, Red Port).....The 3 underwing lights on the Starboard wing are to signal the ground troops, IIRC.......The lights on Red Dog (photo above) are a very late war add...And there is little written info on this set of lights....Do not know if they were a factory add or a field add ( or both).........However they were the equivalent of todays "slime lights" onmost military aircraft...........Basicallyjust to let pilots know where their  wingman/other formation aircraft are.....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
On 6/16/2019 at 3:53 PM, Jennings Heilig said:

 

Allegedly.  There is no documentary evidence to support that.

 

If Merle Olmstead, a crew chief with the 357th, indicates and identifies aircraft in the group painted in RAF dark green (at several instances) in the book  To War With the Yoxford Boys, The Complete Story of the 357th Fighter Group, that's good enough for me.  Can't get much better primary information than from someone who was there.

 

He does acknowledge that there is controversy over the issue but lists a factor on page 286 that makes it probable that these aircraft were painted in RAF green.   Since space was a premium on cargo vessels, paint was one of the items that was, as he calls "reverse Lend Lease" as it wouldn't make sense to ship paint to Britain.  The closest thing to Olive Drab were varying shades of RAF green, and this is what we see on many U.S. aircraft. (Olmstead, 286).

 

You'll probably never find documentary evidence of any use of RAF paint stocks by USAAF units...they just did it. 

Edited by Juggernut

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...