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I don't myself and am highly skeptical about the efficacy of any product that is sold with weasel out marketing clauses like 'can, may, could, might, can assist with, boosts'. 

 

I used to watch ABC's The Checkout and they exposed a lot of snake oil companies exploiting peoples best intentions. The TGA was as toothless as ASIC.

 

To ascertain efficacy I'd recommend chatting to an orthopaedic surgeon. That's their field of expertise.

 

Matty

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For what its worth I've been involved in researching and treating to joint disease for the last 20 years. All the current scientific literature shows that despite many years of research, there is no evidence that these supplements are any superior to placebo. So I would suggest they are just a waste of money. One caveat - I'm a Veterinary Surgeon so my area of expertise is largely dogs and cats:whistle:.

 

 

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I’ve tried it for my knees and feet years ago.  Only thing that helped was quitting sodas.  

Now my left hand has the thumb joint issue where my MD suggest joint replacement.  Not there yet, but if it keeps progressing like it has in the past year, might be sooner than later.  

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I take them regularly, my PC physician recommended trying them a number of years ago. My issue then was primarily stiffness in my hands. Do they work ? Well my hands haven't gotten any better but they haven't gotten any worse either. The only way I could find out for sure would be to go off of them for a period of time and see if they get worse. Not ready to do that yet. I suspect how well they work depends a lot on your issue and your body. Not recommending, just relating my experience.

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Both of my dogs get it.  My 14-year old who is severely arthritic gets Hill's j/d prescription diet, and I've seen it make a significant difference.  I've seen all the research on efficacy in dogs, but anecdotally I've seen it make a difference.

 

In humans I haven't seen similar results.  And you need to be careful, as it can send your cholesterol numbers out of whack in humans.

 

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This thread is funny, because I have had arthritic problems since I was in my teens, now, I will be 50 this year, and I have made some observations. I am also prone to developing bone spurs, so I have tried a lot. I tried taking the joint supplements, and I found they didn't make a noticeable difference to me. However, I had two dogs that were taking these, and they seemed to help them move around better, although one of them eventually had to be euthanized because of his back issues. 

 

What worked for me was what every doctor will tell you, eat healthy, lose weight. my last doctor I had before I moved, believed that wheat products caused issues for a lot of people, I tried the "Wheat belly" diet (there is a book) and it worked for me for a while, but then life happened and I stopped practicing it, I am now thinking about restarting it again. Sounds simple, but I think they might just be on to something. I have been to a specialist and he had ruled out Rheumatoid arthritis, but I found out I had lupus, but it was dormant, he believed it may flare up occasionally and cause me problems. As far as true arthritis joint pain, I have been taking a drug called Meloxicam, which really works for me. 

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I take those supplements also, but wonder exactly how much they help. I have heard that turmeric with black pepper works, which gives me an excuse to eat Thai food. Any excuse for that behavior is greatly appreciated. The biggest problem is one of who is the control and who is the experiment. I don't want to be the control, I want to have the cure tested to be good on me. Just in case it works, we do quite a few things in life. I'd like to know more about this as well, but keep taking the pills just in case.

 

Tnarg

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My orthopod told me when he worked on my torn meniscus in my right knee after the dog clothes-lined me "you're get better but you'll never get well." He suggested C & G and said "it may be a placebo, since it works for some and not for others." I take it anyway and when I stopped for awhile, the knee started hurting a bit. I can't say that it helps my hands, since they hurt periodically and I have arthritis in one of my thumbs. But like chicken soup, "it might not help but it can't hurt."

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7 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said:

Both of my dogs get it.  My 14-year old who is severely arthritic gets Hill's j/d prescription diet, and I've seen it make a significant difference.  I've seen all the research on efficacy in dogs, but anecdotally I've seen it make a difference.

 

In humans I haven't seen similar results.  And you need to be careful, as it can send your cholesterol numbers out of whack in humans.

 

I used it on my last dog.   Gave her a couple of years extra before we had to make the hard decision.    The few times we stopped her meds, we saw her regress within a few days.   Just in my experience, this stuff works (for animals at least). 

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7 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said:

In humans I haven't seen similar results.  And you need to be careful, as it can send your cholesterol numbers out of whack in humans.

 

Not according to research on humans, though they said it CAN elevate insulin levels. Check with your Sawbones.

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Used Glucosamine a couple of years ago, during a period of several months, but eventually i stopped using it.

Ofcourse my complaints stayed and even got worse at certain times, and i noticed that warmth and humidity had a positive effect on my hands (were i had the problems) so actually i should be living somewhere else than doing time in this cold and rainy country i'm in right now..........:hmmm::doh:

 

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18 hours ago, LSP_Matt said:

I don't myself and am highly skeptical about the efficacy of any product that is sold with weasel out marketing clauses like 'can, may, could, might, can assist with, boosts'.

 

They 'have' to say that because no two people are alike.

Works for some and not at all for others. It's a legal CYA

to keep them from being sued (and they would be) if it

didn't work for just one person.

 

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There have been some serious trials in the US analyzing the benefits of glucosamine and as one of the posters previously stated, placebo patients got as many “benefits” as the people taking the real thing. I used it for about 10 years and stopped taking  it as I felt I was taking it just out of habit with no notable benefits. After stopping I noticed no difference whatsoever. Wish I’d kept the cash and used it to help extend my stash! FYI, apparently paprika is one of the “flavors” of the month regarding helping joint pain...

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