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    Thanks for your answers.  We got the stuff  our older dogs that had hip displaysia and it gave them a lot of relief as in they seemed happier and had increased activity.  It's great that it works for dogs...



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The placebo effect is a fascinating thing.

worth being aware also of the healthy user effect, in clinical trials.

The sort of people who take supplements and other remedies are the sorts of people who tend to listen to their medic, and take the statin and watch their weight etc, plus they can afford the supplements evidenced by the fact they buy them. The combined effect of all this is that the supplements appear to have a benefit in self reported outcomes like mobility, achiness etc when there is no pharmacological benefit whatsoever, except for curing heavy wallet syndrome.

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On 2/12/2019 at 12:35 PM, MikeMaben said:


They 'have' to say that because no two people are alike.

Works for some and not at all for others. It's a legal CYA

to keep them from being sued (and they would be) if it

didn't work for just one person.


I think they say it becasue they know it's actually not true and there's no robust peer reviewed evidence to support it. It's definitely a calculated CYA language. What I find objectionable about it, is that in a roundabout way, people who don't know any better don't understand the difference between CYA claims and the real deal.


We used to have a show called 'The Checkout' here in Aus. They were able to show that some companies offered pseduoscientific services that would guarantee a research finding in keeping with advertising. Nothing that would withstand credible scientific scrutiny. 


Here's one of their funnier ones.


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