AlanG 157 Posted February 10 I have been looking at buying some more paints and i like spraying Vallejo as i can get a consistent finish with them (Tamiya is better though imho). Whilst looking at RLM 74 and 76 i noticed they have two numbers for each RLM. RLM 74: 71.258 Grey Green RLM 74: 71.054 Dark Grey Blue RLM 76: 71.257 Light Blue RLM 76: 71.046 Pale Grey Blue My question is. Which ones are right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarryWilliams 163 Posted February 10 The latter numbers. They reviewed their range when they did their air war series and brought out revised shades for some colours. 1 AlanG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanG 157 Posted February 10 (edited) So 258 and 257 are the newer shades. Thanks Barry Edited February 10 by AlanG wrong numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams 2,185 Posted February 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, BarryWilliams said: The latter numbers. They reviewed their range when they did their air war series and brought out revised shades for some colours. If you mean the higher 200 series numbers, I figured that would be true, but it’s not accurate for RLM81. I bought their new color 71.264, but it’s a medium green-tan color that looks nothing like the color shown in the photo of Do335 “105”. I ended up getting the original 71.043 color, which is a dark chocolate brown and more like the photo. Haven’t seen their 200 series RLM 82, but I’m happy with the old one 71.022. Edited February 10 by Dave Williams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanG 157 Posted February 10 For my RLM 81 i have the 71.043 Olive Drab bottle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrish 623 Posted February 10 Aaargh... hey?! the more they overthink the plumbing the easier it is to stop it up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ringleheim 1,350 Posted February 10 I find Vallejo paints to be pretty poor representations of the RLM color range in general. Some of their colors are not even close to accurate. One of the best model paint manufacturers for RLM color fidelity is Mr. Color, though those are lacquers and not acrylics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanG 157 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, ringleheim said: One of the best model paint manufacturers for RLM color fidelity is Mr. Color, though those are lacquers and not acrylics. And there-in is the problem. I prefer acrylics due to the coshh data files Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Heilig 10,058 Posted February 11 One reason I ditched Vallejo was their very poor color fidelity. They also have a bad habit of putting the same exact paint into different bottles and calling it totally different things, when it’s really not correct for either. 1 Rick Griewski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Heilig 10,058 Posted February 11 11 hours ago, AlanG said: And there-in is the problem. I prefer acrylics due to the coshh data files MRP is acrylic lacquer. It’s basically like Tamiya acrylic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMaben 4,585 Posted February 12 On 2/10/2019 at 2:19 AM, AlanG said: My question is. Which ones are right? Which ones do you like ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams 2,185 Posted February 12 (edited) 20 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said: MRP is acrylic lacquer. It’s basically like Tamiya acrylic. Acrylic lacquer like the Tamiya spray paints and primers, with the heavy lacquer smell, or the normal jar Tamiya acrylics, which have little to no smell? Tamiya acrylics aren’t all the same, so some clarity is needed when saying paints are like Tamiya acrylics. Edited February 12 by Dave Williams 1 Out2gtcha reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Out2gtcha 26,460 Posted Tuesday at 03:17 AM 1 hour ago, Dave Williams said: Acrylic lacquer like the Tamiya spray paints and primers, with the heavy lacquer smell......? Yes. They spray like heaven and smell like hell. I really don't mind to be honest, as I have a large spray booth that really terminates most of the smell. As far as how they spray, to me they spray about as opposite as can be when compared to Tamiyas jar acrylics. I've gotten a decent finish with Tamiyas jar acrylics, but not until after a lot of fiddling, thinning and adding retarder. MRP sprays like pure gold right out of the bottle But yes, very reminiscent of Tamiya spray lacquers in the rattle can. 1 CANicoll reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlanG 157 Posted Tuesday at 08:45 AM I have a few 10ml jars of Tamiya and and whilst they do smell a little it's not too bad and i can cope with it. But stronger smelling paints such as alclad or enamels would be a no-no. I have a mask for spraying but i don't have an extraction system for the house. Do Tamiya do any decent RLM colour paints? And i mean that as in the main colours for 190/109/110/111/88 etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.B. Andrus 2,535 Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM Tamiya does have Luftwaffe equivalent colors for 74, 75 & 76. However they are in the AS spray can series. 1 Out2gtcha reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites