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Is WNW nearing the end of its run?

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17 hours ago, vince14 said:

I think you're under-estimating the size of the market for pre-WWII kits. I have no interest in anything with the Stars and Bars or Swastika on it, for example, but that doesn't mean that a market for those kits doesn't exist.

 

 I think you're overestimating it. Your interests and mine are anecdotal.

I'm 66 and I''ve never heard of most of WNW's production line. The only

thing that would interest me is a subjects coolness factor, which to most

of us involves different things. Younger people are interested in things they

grew up with and are familiar with like jets.  I think most younger modelers

are interested in what they grew up with and are familiar with like jets. So

I think the market for WWI kits will shrink (not go away) over time.

WNW offers kits in a limited production run (anyone know how many ?)

and that's it until they reissue likely by popular demand. It looks to me like

they know the market for their kits is limited.

 

4 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said:

Probably about the same number as the people under 100 who know what it is.  What does being born in 1979 have to do with knowledge of WWI airplanes?  

 

It was an age picked out of the air. It's not about knowledge, it's about interest

however younger people have little of either when it comes to WWI.

I have absolutely nothing against WNW and I'm glad they do what they do.

I'm/we're  just talking about market evolution here ... right ?

 

 

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7 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

I think most younger modelers are interested in what they grew up with and are familiar with like jets

 

My two sons are just starting out in the modeling hobby and they both love WWII like me. I know you said 'most' but mine are therefore bucking the trend

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8 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

I think the market for WWI kits will shrink (not go away) over time.

WNW offers kits in a limited production run (anyone know how many ?)

and that's it until they reissue likely by popular demand. It looks to me like they know the market for their kits is limited.

 

 

Yes exactly. They won’t make kits only a few people will buy.

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WNW have literally created a market that either did not exist or no one knew existed.  Before WNW there was zero chance that anyone would do a new tooling kit of most of the kits WNW have released.  Take WNW first release the Junkers J1.  No manufacturer would have released that in 1/32 as no one would have thought that anyone would buy it.  

 

I am comfortable that as long as there is a scale modeling community there will be a demand for WWI aircraft.  WWI airplanes have a certain inherent attraction.  Their use of wood, fabric and colorful markings will always leave us with a reason to build them.  The argument that the market depends on people that have a firsts hand memory of them is entirely wrong.  Most people that remember byplanes from first hand experience, unfortunately we are loosing generationally.  

 

Now they are only obscurities that show up for enthusiasts to see at the odd air show or museum.  Maybe plastic modeling dies someday, but I am not worried about that.  Maybe WNW decides to cease production or Peter Jackson buys one too many islands in the Caribbean and goes bankrupt.  Anything can happen.  However, until then  I want to quote Aaron Rodgers and just say “Relax”.  WNW going out of business is not an immediate or imminent problem.  If it becomes an immense problem then we can go nuts over it as the world may end and the Zombies finally wipe us all out. 

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I am sure they will be around for awhile longer... I had very little interest in WWI until WnW came onto the scene. At the 2010 IPMS nats in Phoenix I spotted a cool 1/32 albatros on the contest table and made the comment that ' someone did a nice job with the Roden kit'. Fortunately the builder was standing across the table from corrected me and filled me in on the kit. I decided to try an alby since it was the only WWI plane I had any passing interest in at the the time. I built it and was hooked.

Now this is what that day turned into...

 

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Edited by The Dude

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Wingnut WIngs caught my interest because they made the fantasy of my youth a reality. I remember seeing and wanting the 1/48 scale Aurora kits of WWI subjects like the Breguet 14 and Albatros C.III but I only had the few dimes it took to buy and build Revell or Airfix WWI fighters. They covered half of my ceiling, while the other half eventually became Monogram and Revell WWII US bombers of WWII as my increased resources and Christmas presents provided later. The reality of the K&B or Aurora kits was nowhere as wonderful as their box art led me to believe, and the reality of Wingnut Wings may still be improved upon slightly, but it is pretty amazing. I still hope for the Breguet and the Albatros two seaters plus a lot more. It may be an old man's recapture of his youth, but it is also a re-creation of an incredibly different time that puts today's world into a different perspective.

 

Tnarg

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There are kits I might buy (the Stahltaube or the Flying Quonset Hut or maybe even a Halberstadt), and I know nothing about them. I know a lot about the Eindecker, but have resisted its siren call so far because I JUST HAVE TOO MANY DAMN KITS. No logic, right. :m0152::m0152::m0152:

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6 hours ago, Pup7309 said:

Yes exactly. They won’t make kits only a few people will buy.

Nope. They make kits of subjects Peter Jackson wants to build - it’s as simple as that.

 

Being owned by a guy worth half a billion dollars has its advantages.

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1 hour ago, The Dude said:

I am sure they will be around for awhile longer... I had very little interest in WWI until WnW came onto the scene. At the 2010 IPMS nats in Phoenix I spotted a cool 1/32 albatros on the contest table and made the comment that ' someone did a nice job with the Roden kit'. Fortunately the builder was standing across the table from corrected me and filled me in on the kit. I decided to try an alby since it was the only WWI plane I had any passing interest in at the the time. I built it and was hooked.

Now this is what that day turned into...

 

wnw-2_zpsuqqxfjpn.jpg

 

wnw-1_zpswmimpd7q.jpg

 

No man needs (2) Gothas, sell me one! :)

 

Ryan

 

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1 hour ago, ringleheim said:

Is it just me? It seems like WNW generates an enormous amount of conversation at this forum, but very little in the way of build threads or finished models!

 

 

WW1 is still a niche subject, compared to airplanes with swastikas or pointy grey jets.   That being said, have you taken some time to look at the in-progress and RFI forums?  Seems to be a pretty good number of WNW subjects waiting for your review. 

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