Dainis Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I'm shortly starting the Hasegawa 1/32 Bf 109 f4 trop done in Yellow 4 of 9./JG 27 based in Straubing, Germany during May 1942. I'm choosing this because of the unusual paint over the 79/78 trop pattern, that is 75 and 79. The question I have is about the asymmetrical delineation line between the 78 and the 79/75/70 on the starbord side vs the port side. The starboard side seems to have the existing 79/78 delineation line, while the port side delineation between the 79/75/70 and the 78 is much lower on the fuselage. Im using EagleCals as a reference, but after a little search I found a black and white photo of both sides of Yellow 4. While grainy, it kinda looks like the asymmetry is there. It looks wacky, that's why I'm interested. But at the same time it does look a bit too wacky. Any thoughts? alanash1963, BiggTim and D.B. Andrus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Correction to my post: Paint over the 79/78 paint is 75 and 70, not 75 and 79 as I incorrectly keyed in. BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Those were all field jobs so that sort of irregularity is quite possible. BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 I'm not surprised at any asymmetry given that it is a field job, but geez is it dramatic. That's why I was drawn to it in the first place. I'm goin' in! BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Dainis said: I'm goin' in! BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 The build will start in about five to six days. I hope this will be by first build post on LSP. Maybe Maketar masks for balkenkreuz after my good results with French Spit roundels. Hope I wont disappoint!: Kagemusha, LSP_K2, BiggTim and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikester Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Do you have a pic? The only "Yellow 4" I recall with this paint scheme is Von Boremki's plane of 9./JG 3. BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 I looked up a photograph and it is in fact von Boremki's plane of 9./JG3, not JG 27.The EaglCals reference the aircraft as JG27. It would seem to be an error on their part? Nonetheless, the paint scheme is the same, with the strange asymmetrical delineation. Various other sources seem to back this up. Was this a one off or were there others with similar type overpaint in the same JG? BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think there were quite a few, Maketar make a set for such aircraft. I believe they were based in Finland. BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks for info. An interesting tidbit about Finland. Cheers! BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 That is a very cool scheme that I haven't seen before. I noticed that the Maketar sheet showed the same asymmetry with the fuselage paint, too. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dainis Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 It is a cool scheme. It'll stand out on my display shelf that's for sure. More than a 1001 ways to paint 109s, they never bore you with their colour schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) This is just about my favorite BF-109 scheme. Eduard has a variation of this in their boxing of the 1/48 F-4. I have a F-4 painted up with this that I have not finished and is hanging on my workshop wall. I have seen the Beremski photos attributed to the plane being in Germany. I have thought though this was an Eastern Front scheme used on a few Tropical Planes that were reassigned. Anyway good luck with it. Edited January 30, 2019 by cbk57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 FCM Decals have a 1/32 sheet with Gelb 7 from 9./JG 3, flown by Oberleutnant Viktor Bauer, apparently based in numerous airfields in Russia in 1942. Here's a link, just scroll down to sheet number 32024. Bauer's kite had the same scheme as von Boremski's Gelb 4, and despite the aforementioned asymmetry there seemed to be a definite pattern applied to all the Trop Friedrich's delivered to the "Udet" Geschwader, apart from a few minor discrepancies between machines, naturally. I found these photos on the Asisbiz site, for comparative purposes. Note that the general outlines for the overlaying coats of 75 and 70 over the original 79/78 follow a similar design on both sides. Gelb 4 starboard Gelb 4 port Gelb 7 starboard Gelb 7 port Hope that helped! Dainis and MikeMaben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 A couple of similar options with this kit, one based in the Soviet Union, the other Finland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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