LSP_K2 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Does anyone know if the Trumpeter MiG-17 is really a changed kit, or is it just a re-boxing of the MiG-15 kit, and being called a MiG-17? mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The MiG-17 is a different kit, but it has parts from the other kit in it. The engine is the same as the MiG-15 kit so the fuselage cut is in the wrong place (20mm too far back). It is very clunky, the wing tips are way too thick, the clear parts are inaccurate, etc... It looks like a MiG-17 from a distance, and appears better as you step further away! Alain D.B. Andrus, kalashnikov-47, LSP_K2 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 It is different, but not the best kit. However, it can be built into a nice kit with some aftermarket, and since you can pick these up so cheap, you can load up with AM. Now, the Mig 19, is a whole different kit, absolutely beautiful kit, one of the best of Trumpeter. LSP_K2 and mpk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 My Trumpeter MiG-17 ended up in the bin after i physically snapped in two due to frustration. One of the worst kits I have ever built. mpk, Martinnfb, Gazzas and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 OK, thanks, fellas. My buddy won one in our Christmas raffle and asked me about it. I had no idea, so I came to you fellas. I know that the MiG-15 is rough, as I've owned at least two of them, but the MiG-17 I was unsure about, so thanks for the inputs. mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Jennings Heilig said: It’s a totally different kit. The two share very little in common. Neither kit is especially accurate. AFAIK the MiG-15 was the first aircraft model that Trumpeter ever did. I had a friend who was an airline pilot in the 1990s and asked me if I wanted one when he saw it in a shop in Beijing. Nobody outside China had ever heard of “Trumpeter” (what a silly name) models before. I remember thinking it was more of a toy than a serious model kit. why is trumpeter a silly name? do you know what Revell/Monogram etc. sounds like in chinese? i dont, but maybe it sounds funny too... 3 hours ago, 1to1scale said: It is different, but not the best kit. However, it can be built into a nice kit with some aftermarket, and since you can pick these up so cheap, you can load up with AM. Now, the Mig 19, is a whole different kit, absolutely beautiful kit, one of the best of Trumpeter. The mig 19 is a good kit? did you build one? i would love to see your solution of the main landinggear.... its the only kit that beat me... i finshed it, but it just doesnt look right mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerobat Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Trumpeter did a few 1/48 scale kits before the Mig-15/Mig-17/Mig-17PF/JJ-5 releases in1/32. The Mig-15 appears to be a copy if the 1/48 Tamiya kit. These models brought me to the original LargescalePlanes. I was searching for opinions on the new models and there weren't any .... no one had heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The interesting bit about the MiG-15 kit is that they included a nose weight exactly like the Tamiya 1/48 one, but for some reason didn’t scale it up like the plastic parts. It’s still a 1/48 sized weight in a 1/32 kit! Also, they didn’t copy the Tamiya clear parts, instead making their own, including a new windscreen that is hosed up. mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Aerobat said: Trumpeter did a few 1/48 scale kits before the Mig-15/Mig-17/Mig-17PF/JJ-5 releases in1/32. That may well be, but I'm quite sure that the MiG-15 was indeed their first foray into 1:32 scale. mpk and Ryan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Dave Williams said: The interesting bit about the MiG-15 kit is that they included a nose weight exactly like the Tamiya 1/48 one, but for some reason didn’t scale it up like the plastic parts. It’s still a 1/48 sized weight in a 1/32 kit! Also, they didn’t copy the Tamiya clear parts, instead making their own, including a new windscreen that is hosed up. I don't recall a nose weight in any of my MiG kits. That may be due to my having acquired the Hobbycraft boxings, I'm not real sure. While I briefly had the MiG-17 kit, the only thing that I specifically recall, was the same screwed up windscreen from the MiG-15 kit. mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 The MiG-17 is one of their worst kits. The wings are horrible and would ask to be scratchbuild to be accurate. Out2gtcha and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, thierry laurent said: The MiG-17 is one of their worst kits. The wings are horrible and would ask to be scratchbuild to be accurate. Then thats saying something. The Mig-15 was one of my first foray into LSP modeling, and it still is to this day, one of the worst kits Ive built. Shawn M and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Well, in comparison, the MiG-15 is far better! It looks like they started with a badly pantographed copy of the Tamiya 1/48th kit to make the 15 and then modified it to create the 17. Unfortunately, I do not know where they got their measures or which plan they used but the wings need a complete reconstruction as the chord and angles are erroneous over the whole length! There are other errors such as wingtips shape issues, fences length, aileron shapes, stab shapes, panel lines and wrong LG bays but in comparison they can be "more easily" corrected. Last, correcting the wing implies a modification of the fuselage wing fairing! The nose has also issues, as well as the front LG bay, the canopy shapes, the rudder chord, the airbarkes shape, the full cockpit is a toy, etc... Should I go on? I have one on which I already worked a lot. The very sad aspect is the fact the Profimodeller and Eduard sets are made to detail the erroneous features of the kit rather than correct them (e.g. wing or airbrake details). So, either you correct and scratchbuild everything, either you just correct most of the issues and use the detail sets but do not really change the wings or fully correct the airbrakes. Finally this is the option I have chosen as I did not want to change that build into a close to full scratchbuild... :-( mpk, Out2gtcha and Martinnfb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Sounds pretty gloomy. Thanks for the inputs, I'll pass this along to my pal. mpk and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/11/2019 at 2:34 PM, LSP_K2 said: Sounds pretty gloomy. Thanks for the inputs, I'll pass this along to my pal. FYI, I finished my Mig-15, heavily weathered, it won 3rd it it’s category. LSP_Ray, Gary Needham, mpk and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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