nmayhew Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, jep1210 said: Yoo kin doo eet!!!! nooooooo!!! Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 That's it. I give up. I'm going to find a suitable camo version for the Jugg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Durangokid said: The primer coat looks much better. I mix a little bit of Mr. Color leveling thinner with mine which makes it even smoother. Bryan Thanks Bryan - If my sanity allows a third coat, I'll give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durangokid Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I think it looks great the way it is... Sir Spendalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hey, you could always give foiling a shot! Sir Spendalot and mark31 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep1210 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Spendalot said: That's it. I give up. I'm going to find a suitable camo version for the Jugg What happened???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 48 minutes ago, jep1210 said: What happened???? Just kidding (a reaction to Mr Mayhew's post). I'm going to give the polished aluminium Alclad a go but will try it out on the flaps first. There are suggestions elsewhere that a glossy finish is required to get the best out of the high shine Alclads. Any thoughts? Also, any recommendations regarding the use (or not) of varnishes. I'll need to mask ahead of adding various other colours (yellow, black and red) and was wondering if I need to protect the aluminium coat first. Any help gratefully received. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep1210 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sir Spendalot said: Just kidding (a reaction to Mr Mayhew's post). I'm going to give the polished aluminium Alclad a go but will try it out on the flaps first. There are suggestions elsewhere that a glossy finish is required to get the best out of the high shine Alclads. Any thoughts? Also, any recommendations regarding the use (or not) of varnishes. I'll need to mask ahead of adding various other colours (yellow, black and red) and was wondering if I need to protect the aluminium coat first. Any help gratefully received. Paul Yes a gloss base will yield a higher shine...as close to mirror as you can get with paint when using their chrome. I recently used the chrome on the afterburner can of a Thunder Birds F-16 with a gloss black Model Master base. It actually was too chrome like so I misted some aircraft aluminum over it and it really gave the result I was looking for. The chrome seems to be the most fragile of their finishes. I think if you go with a flat finish base it will give a more used look...aircraft in service wouldn't be all new and shiny. I've always wanted to try different shades of grays and black to see if that would give a convincing dis-similar panel look you often see in photos of real NMF planes. I've been lazy up to this point but I may have to get off my butt and find a test subject to try that. As for varnish, I don't like using them over metal paints, it seems to lose something, but that might just be me. Alclad is smooth enough that decals stick to them just fine...in my experience. The draw back is your markings and nose art and what not are shinny. I guess you could always brush a flat clear over them if it bothers you too much. You might want to consider spraying the red, yellow and black first and mask those then spray the aluminum. Alclad lays out really thin so you shouldn't have an issue with a paint lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clioguy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just my personal opinion.... Use Alclad's gloss base coat and spray it as smooth as possible. When applying Alclad, use very light coats and build it up gradually, do not over do it. Before masking Alclad, leave it to rest AT LEAST a week! Do not be tempted to mask it within 24 hours even though it is dry to the touch. It needs ample time to cure so that it won't lift after masking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 Thanks for the advice guys - much appreciated. So, I've made a start and added the yellow and red to my black base and microfiller layer. I'll mask these up tomorrow and then apply the black and olive drab, followed by the polished aluminium ... and then a week of patiently staring at the shiny finish (where's the finger drumming emoji?) Back to the varnish question - what happens if you want to add a bit of light weathering. I assume you can't do this straight on top of Alclads? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep1210 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) I found a "test mule" a Tamiya 1/48 ME262. I used Model Master enamels as a base, I hope no one minds me sharing my results here. http:// Top to bottom flat black, Navy Gloss Gray FS16081, Gunship Gray FS36118, Dark Ghost Gray FS36320, Light Gray FS36495 and gloss black which is not pictured. http:// Here they all are sprayed on to give a sense of what the colors look like. I really can't believe the gloss black turned out as glossy as it did, I could never get a finish like that when I was into modeling cars. Flat color are SO much more for giving. http:// I decided to try two Alclad colors, I sprayed Duraluminum on the bottom(of the fuselage). The aluminum really makes the dirt particles stick out, I suggest going over the base with 4000 micromesh should be good. Fortunately this is just for test purposes. http:// Then I hit it with Aircraft Aluminum on the top. I masked the lower color with a Post It, a great low tack making solution and handy for taking notes and posting them for all to see. The next couple of shot are just the same thing taken in different light. http:// Outside in sunlight http:// http:// http:// That thick dark line is the reflection on my black shirt. So, the color of the undercoat has less effect on the finish than I expected. The Gloss vs Flat black had the greatest affect on the finish than the differences in color. Edited February 8, 2019 by jep1210 Added some missing text MikeMaben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep1210 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 YIKES!!!! Big pictures...let me fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 6:49 PM, jep1210 said: YIKES!!!! Big pictures...let me fix that. That's brilliant - many thanks. Saves a lot a experimentation at this end I was thinking about something along these lines after seeing a video where the modeller had used a gloss black and then random NATO black. This gave more of a worn look. Think I might try a mix of gloss and matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep1210 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Sir Spendalot said: That's brilliant - many thanks. Saves a lot a experimentation at this end I was thinking about something along these lines after seeing a video where the modeller had used a gloss black and then random NATO black. This gave more of a worn look. Think I might try a mix of gloss and matt. Yeah, just stay away from Aircraft Aluminum over the gloss black, it's way too chrome like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Spendalot Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Was thinking a mix of polished aluminium (or is that the same as aircraft aluminium?), standard and white aluminium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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