Bill Cross Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 6:00 AM, EvilCarrot said: Even with the aforementioned flaws... Don't have the Sitzfleisch to go through over 40 pages to find out what these are. Can anyone give me the Cliff Notes version of the boogers on this windshield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottsGT Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill Cross said: Don't have the Sitzfleisch to go through over 40 pages to find out what these are. Can anyone give me the Cliff Notes version of the boogers on this windshield? All plastic gear, big heavy model turrets on nose and tail all wrong with ugly glue joints where it is supposed to be smooth glass. wing airfoil all wrong engines lacking detail. Rubber tires Edited January 7, 2019 by ScottsGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottsGT said: All plastic gear, big heavy model turrets on nose and tail all wrong with ugly glue joints where it is supposed to be smooth glass. wing airfoil all wrong engines lacking detail. Rubber tires Cowl shapes off. LSP_Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonGUSA Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottsGT said: All plastic gear, big heavy model turrets on nose and tail all wrong with ugly glue joints where it is supposed to be smooth glass. wing airfoil all wrong engines lacking detail. Rubber tires The engines not the correct diameter they are 43.232" (1,098.092 8mm) the actual P&W R-1830 should measure 48.062.5' (1,220.7875mm) which leaves a difference of 4.8350" (122 809mm) thats 2.4175" (61.4025mm) off in radius. In 1/32 scale thats 1.92mm!!! Ouch! Which means the cowls and the nacelles are off also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, RonGUSA said: The engines not the correct diameter they are 43.232" (1,098.092 8mm) the actual P&W R-1830 should measure 48.062.5' (1,220.7875mm) which leaves a difference of 4.8350" (122 809mm) thats 2.4175" (61.4025mm) off in radius. In 1/32 scale thats 1.92mm!!! Ouch! Which means the cowls and the nacelles are off also. It's more likely to mean that the engines are underscale in order to accommodate the thickness of the cowl plastic. This is a common problem with aircraft models that feature exposed (or exposable) engines. Kev LSP_K2, D.B. Andrus, Iain and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 There is a shape issue with the cowls that someone brought up earlier - with regards to a slight flattening at the sides when viewed from the front. However - I'll wait until I have dimensions to work from before doing any corrective work - still a way off as I'm still working through the wings on my build. You can't assume anything from the diameter of the engines as moulded IMHO. Blue skies! Iain LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Looks like the instructions are up at Hobby Search. https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10567618 Kagemusha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cross Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wow, that's a lot of boogers. Thanks, Gents, much obliged. Still, if I wait long enough, I assume some of you perfectionist pit bulls will come up with workarounds that don't involve scratching. Pastor John??? I'm definitely intrigued, though like with the B-17, would prefer an earlier version. I assume if this baby sells, we'll get one without a nose turret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 They've already announced a B-24D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonGUSA Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Iain (32SIG) said: There is a shape issue with the cowls that someone brought up earlier - with regards to a slight flattening at the sides when viewed from the front. However - I'll wait until I have dimensions to work from before doing any corrective work - still a way off as I'm still working through the wings on my build. You can't assume anything from the diameter of the engines as moulded IMHO. Blue skies! Iain Hi lian I was only stating the difference between the real thing and the kit. Sorry if I stated something wrong. Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not at all Ron - really useful input on engine diameters - just a little wary of extrapolating to the rest of the nacelles just yet! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Driver Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Since the thread is called Initial Observations, I will share my opinion on the B-24J from my initial observations and impressions. My box was faulty /or maybe all of them are/ it takes me around 60-90 seconds to remove the lid without damaging. So tight. Boxart - ridiculous Sprues and their contents - standard HB quality. Chunky details overall. This statement have nothing to do with the size of the kit too. Decals - nothing serious. Wheel struts - ridiculous. Wheels - ridiculous. Engravings on the kit - scaled down to 72nd scale those might do. For that scale - ridiculous. PE parts - thick. As for accuracy, the thread is enough as a source. My conclusion: Mediocre kit at any level. Chunky in appearance. Beats the idea of scale modeling - having a decent miniature. Only a master can make this look realistic. Even without the corrections of the wrong shapes, it requires a lot of works on surface details, rivets mostly. Just the regular Joe /modeler/ will most likely fail creating decent representation. That includes me. Respectively - many will try, larger part of those will fail, due to the reasons stated above. However, still an LSP and at a very affordable price. Cool subject for 32nd scale. I still like it overall, but it isn't a serious kit nor a serious investment. Rather something to play with when bored. But who do I try to fool? This is Hobby Boss. Edited January 10, 2019 by Eagle Driver Alain Gadbois, Darren Howie and alanash1963 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Yeah it’s a shame. This is it. The only choice and chance to own it. I guess if someone else did think of doing a 32nd B24 and read this thread, they would be wiser for it? But who else would do it? Not a Japanese or European company. I don’t know much about HK but they did a B17 and Lancaster, so unless they do a more correct version, TrumpyBoss’s it is... alanash1963 and Gerhard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I don't think it's quite as bad as it's being made out to be. I think some of the hyperbole is a bit... ridiculous. EvilCarrot, CATCplSlade, jimbo and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I agree, for the rivet counters it must be a nightmare, for me it's fine. EvilCarrot, johncrow, Out2gtcha and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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