LSP_Mike Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 We are getting first looks at a plane that has long been "wanted' and is now being delivered. This model is not going to be to everyones taste, for myriad reasons. IT WILL suit other peoples taste. That said, lets get some pics up, and have a civil discussion about the kit. The engines are simplified: OK, I'll wager that some careful paint and wire will dress it up nicely. As most of us are aware, almost everyone will look into the engine cowl, see the engine and go "OHHHH... you put the wires in", and leave it at that. nice touch. Others will want the full monty, with complete engines in all positions. Good on ya. Either way will suit someone. I'm more interested in identifying any weak points and having guys figure out the fix, and how to get the most mileage out of this kit. There are members here that have a lot of knowledge about this kit, so we should all come out ahead. D.B. Andrus, Padraic Conway, Ryan and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On 12/15/2018 at 7:04 PM, Dave Williams said: Not sure why MMD/Squadron decided to play this pricing game with this particular kit, but it assures that I won’t be buying one from them, or anyone else in the US, at this insane price when it’s half the price overseas. Good job, Squadron! Wingnut wings does the same thing and it seems to work for them. FWIW, 9 of the b 24s arrived at the local hobby shop on Friday and most of them were already gone at the strictly -enforced-by -MMD-price when I was there Saturday afternoon. Here is a quick pic of them just a they arrived at the local hobby shop and the employee there showing them off. 6 hours ago, Radub said: I am not sure, but to me it looks like the flaps are missing in the photo of the plastic parts. In other words, the "trailing edge" seems to be missing. Juvatwad, can you compare the profile of the plastic parts to the NACA profile posted elsewhere in this thread? Radu Radu, yeah the flaps are missing from that picture. It doesn't look too bad IMO. Edited December 17, 2018 by The Dude spelling Kagemusha, rafju, Jan_G and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Dude said: Wingnut wings does the same thing and it seems to work for them. There’s a huge difference. WNW pretty much enforces the same price anywhere in the world, and it’s the same on all of their kits. This is one particular importer/distributor in one country on one kit. Other HB kits are sold in the US at discounts. Why the difference on this particular kit? I’ll be very interested to see if Squadron has the kit in stock and then has some sort of 10-20-30% off Christmas sale, where you can get a discount if you buy from Squadron, while other companies are forced to sell the kit at the MSRP that Squadron themselves set. KiwiZac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvatwad Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I can check the airfoil tonight, unless somebody else who has the kit gets there first. Ian Alain Gadbois, PhilB and Out2gtcha 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Gerhard said: We dont have another B-24 in this scale, period. I would proudly build this. It's not like your visitors would walk into your house and comment om the wing root for goodness sake. If they have any WW2 knowledge, they might say, oh, cool B-24. I’m very much of the same attitude. However, I may correct you on one thing if I may..? This is actually the THIRD release of a 1/32nd B-24: 1) ID Models vacuform 2) Combat Models vacuform 3) Hobby Boss As I said earlier in this thread, if people don’t like the Hobby Boss release then they have two other options. However, both the vacs will take at least a year (I know from experience) and will also require complete interiors, engines, undercarriages, props, etc etc to be scratchbuilt. The bonus is of course, you can angle the wing whatever angle you want as it’s vacformed, as there are no wing roots on the fuselage. Excellent news! Or you could build the new Hobby Boss kit... Tom Mikester, npb748r, KiwiZac and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Good point Tom, and the level of quality achieved on your vac builds is tremendous for any kit, let alone a vac. The amount of work to get a vac B-24 up to par seems almost insurmountable to me, and Im sure speaking from experience, you can attest to how much work any other option is if you love the Mess and want one in 32nd. As Mike mentioned, if anyone who has the kit could maybe please post some more pics, specifically w/the flaps taped on? Jan_G, Troy Molitor and LSP_Matt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Good point Tom, one that I deliberately omitted. I do not know if the ID models, and Combat models kits are the same, or even if the wing is more accurate that the new HB kit. It may be that the ultimate accurate B-24 kit is only available as a combination of the HB, and one of the vac kits. For the 1/32 B-24 purist that may be the only way forward. One lesson I learned long ago, on a Hase Ki-43: all the wiring and plumbing in the pit still only got me a "oh, nice' and the viewer was looking at some other detail. I knew the detail was there, and accurate, but still only good for a 3-4 second scan. we are better served as a community by working forward to enhance what I suspect will be a very buildable kit. Padraic Conway, Out2gtcha, LSP_Matt and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Dear lord, it's a MASSIVE honkin' kit! Edited December 17, 2018 by TAG Troy Molitor, Out2gtcha, Padraic Conway and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Gerhard said: There is PE to upgrade the engines. I dont get the fuss, really. We dont have another B-24 in this scale, period. I would proudly build this. It's not like your visitors would walk into your house and comment om the wing root for goodness sake. If they have any WW2 knowledge, they might say, oh, cool B-24. You guys are just being full of it, really. I think you're missing the much bigger picture here. It's not at all about what any visitors may see or know, it's more about what a modeler has a right to expect when he lays down two or three hundred dollars for a new kit, regardless of whether or not that kit existed before. For those that are content with a massive blob of plastic that sort of looks like a huge radial engine, great, I just don't happen to be one of those people. D.B. Andrus, Jeff T, Out2gtcha and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 WOW this kit is huge!! It looks like the ball turret is in three parts. I would sure like to get this kit but I would not know where to put it. Mike LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I always enjoy Andy's little vids. It actually doesn't look that bad of a kit. I think I'd build it OOB PhilB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Came here to post the review video from Andy's Hobby Headquarters. TAG beat me to the punch! Out2gtcha and TAG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, phantom said: WOW this kit is huge!! It looks like the ball turret is in three parts. I would sure like to get this kit but I would not know where to put it. Mike It's gigantic. Something like a 41" and change wingspan! 28" long....it's sort of "museum size" as most people probably don't have the kind of space needed to display this in a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 No I don't but that's not stopping me ringleheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 good lord that is one large kit.... Think we are gonna need a bigger bench... Lee White, Ryan, Troy Molitor and 6 others 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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