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Airfix News Just in from Telford: 1/24 Hellcat!

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So, having heard a statement from them that K1 put out indicating that they will not be doing a -3..................

 

So what are the visual differences it would take to get an F6F-5 to and F6F-3 other than the obvious rear windows behind the pilot?

 

 

 

All that being said, I did happen to find this pic, that seems to show an F6F-5 in the typical 3-tone USN scheme:

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hellcat/F6F-5/pages/Grumman-F6F-5-Hellcat-showing-the-three-tone-color-scheme-01.html

 

 

Grumman-F6F-5-Hellcat-showing-the-three-

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With luck, Airfix will also do an F6F-3, however with that said, I think there are adequate nice marking options for the -5 to keep us all busy for a while.  You don’t have to have three color scheme to make this airplane interesting.  I suspect we can find plenty of interesting marking options for it.  So I will be happy to do a -5 in GSB and if the chance comes around do a -3 in three color.  

 

As for a 1/24 Corsair, unless it is an F4U-4 or latter I don’t see any point.  The Tamiya one in 1/32 is fine.  I don’t see Airfix wanting to do their own version.  I am really happy to see this F6 being done.  I can’t tell, I watched the Video by Airfix and have looked at the sprues but it sounds like this kit will somehow have the option of positioning the wings in the extended or folded position interchangeably.  I don’t think they are incorporating a folding mechanism though.  It looks like maybe somehow you can hang the wings in either position.  If that is the case, I love it.  You can store and pop the wings out when you want.  With these big planes, storage flexibility would be a great help.  I hope we see more of that in future designs.  

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8 minutes ago, cbk57 said:

With luck, Airfix will also do an F6F-3, however with that said, I think there are adequate nice marking options for the -5 to keep us all busy for a while.  

 

 

Ill see if I can find where he quoted it, but I believe LSP_Kevin got/saw a response from AirFix on their site or FB site, and they seemed to confirm that they were not doing a -3 release. 

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1 hour ago, Out2gtcha said:

So, having heard a statement from them that K1 put out indicating that they will not be doing a -3..................

 

So what are the visual differences it would take to get an F6F-5 to and F6F-3 other than the obvious rear windows behind the pilot?

 

 

 

All that being said, I did happen to find this pic, that seems to show an F6F-5 in the typical 3-tone USN scheme:

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hellcat/F6F-5/pages/Grumman-F6F-5-Hellcat-showing-the-three-tone-color-scheme-01.html

 

 

Grumman-F6F-5-Hellcat-showing-the-three-

 

Doubt that’s a -5 due to the windshield differences previously mentioned.  Pretty sure it’s a -3.

 

This is a -3 canopy.  Notice the height and flattish shape of the top of the center windscreen panel, plus the frame going from the upper corner of the center panel back to the rear frame of the windscreen.  There are two of these frames, one each side.

 

nasm_f6f_09.jpg

 

This is a -5 canopy.  Note the top of the center windscreen is rounded and goes almost to the top of the windscreen, and there is just a single frame at top center going back the the rear windscreen frame.  Plus, the center panel is flat, whereas it’s slightly curved in the -3.

 

mAtseQz.jpg

 

Aside from adding the rear windows and needing a new windscreen, the pilot’s rear head armor needs to be cut on the sides to allow him to be able to look back through the rear windows.  Also, check this thread.

 

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235041054-difference-between-a-late-f6f-3-and-f6f-5-cowling/

 

Edited by Dave Williams

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1 hour ago, Out2gtcha said:

 

 

Ill see if I can find where he quoted it, but I believe LSP_Kevin got/saw a response from AirFix on their site or FB site, and they seemed to confirm that they were not doing a -3 release. 

If that is the case, oh well.  I hope in time they come back and do it.  In the near term I am not holding out for a -3.  I will happily take the -5, I like this kit.  I think there is a lot to be enthusiastic about here.  

 

I am looking foreword to seeing how the wing fold works on this.  Do the wings remain positionnable after assembly in some manner?  To me being able to position the wings folded or unfolded would be a big plus.  I just am not into committing to folded wings as I don't like to build that way but if I could have the option of positioning them that is a different story as I could put the model away and fold the wings.

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My understanding is as the Hellcat production progressed Grumman introduced a number of modifications to the base -3 design so some late -3 have features associated with the -5.

 

When the USN changed the specification / order to change aircraft paint schemes from. Tri-colour to GSB. Grumman implemented the change with the introduction of the -5 to service. So all -5 were supplied in GSB to the USN..

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i am just starting to learn about the airframe as I spoke to them about doing an IP set for it - it's got me curious though as the IP in the kit is actually just a reflector shroud that sat on top of the standard IP for only the F6F5N nightfighter - it had a load of dim red lamps on it and covered most of the instrumentation

 

panel5_zps1nisuytl.jpg

 

..the odd thing is I can't see the big wing radar pod that went with this variant on the sprues, and even assuming there is a clear IP that sits under it (there were no clear sprues at Telford), I am still slightly baffled as to what's planned...

 

..I guess I will just do metal IPs and bespoke decals / placards when the test shot arrives and give the choice - shroud or no shroud..

 

Peter

 

 

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1 hour ago, Out2gtcha said:

So, having heard a statement from them that K1 put out indicating that they will not be doing a -3..................

 

 

 

Airfix are not going to tell anyone anything about future releases. 

 

Having just kept the hellcat a secret they are not now going to advise to everyone definitive future plans more so when that info could hurt the sales of the current projected release. Right now if you want a 1/24 hellcat the announced release is what you have so if you really wanted a -3 for the stash then you might go ah well and buy a -5 and work out how to convert it to a -3 or what paint scheme you can get away with. If you knew a -3 was going to happen you’d not buy the -5 which hurts sales of that kit.

 

same thing happened with the 1/24 Typhoon...

 

Its basic customer expectation management in play..

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10 minutes ago, airscale said:

i am just starting to learn about the airframe as I spoke to them about doing an IP set for it -

 

 The -3 IP is different to the -5 IP from what I can tell.

 

if you did both then if someone wanted to build a late -3 with the kit parts that would be a help...

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57 minutes ago, rafju said:

-5 => bullet proof windshield

and -3?

 

 

-3 => armor glass plate behind the windscreen.

 

This picture clearly shows the thick plate of armor glass behind the windscreen.

 

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/on-the-deck-of-the-uss-yorktown-aircraft-carrier-arm3c-news-photo/104334057

 

Edited by Dave Williams

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5 hours ago, Out2gtcha said:

Ill see if I can find where he quoted it, but I believe LSP_Kevin got/saw a response from AirFix on their site or FB site, and they seemed to confirm that they were not doing a -3 release. 

 

 

It was stated in the staff area, Brian.

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3 hours ago, Plasto said:

 

Airfix are not going to tell anyone anything about future releases. 

 

They haven't done a Spitfire Mk.IX nor a Mosquito bomber, so I wouldn't hold my breath until they do another F6F.

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