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Aires Cockpit Fit Issues???

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A lot of the issues that Aires runs into is that there stuff is a perfect scale replica.  So it doesn't take the thickness of kit plastic, or any scaling inaccuracies into account.  So they're pretty much the exact copy of whatever they're representing in scale, regardless of what discrepancies there is with the kit.

 

 

And also resin has funky properties that can shrink or warp or expand based on a thousand variables.

 

 

 

 

Matt 

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2 hours ago, BloorwestSiR said:

 

The wheel wells actually have a decent fit. I think the MLG one is slightly short but I was stunned when they both fit with minimal fussing.

 

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With the fuselage closed up 

 

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F-104 Carl?

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Aires wheel bays that go into the wings are an almost universal problem because they don’t seem to take into account the thickness of the plastic wing parts.  You usually have to thin the plastic of both the upper and lower wings paper thin to get a chance of them fitting.  Wheel bays that go into the fuselage like on the F-104, F-16, Mig-23, etc. usually aren’t a problem because there is usually a lot of empty space in the fuselage.  The only problem might be if the wheel well “box” is slightly smaller than the well opening in the fuselage.

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I’ve just done this with the Aires pit on the Revell Tornado to get the nose wheel well to fit. I took it into work to use the air powered tools. But same as you they need to be made to fit.

 

Steve.

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Lol, that's funny you ask... 

 

Some Aires sets fit nicely, others are aweful. The F-104 cockpit is certainly one of the worst fit ever.

 

Mine took me almost as long to fit than to build the whole model. :)

I talked about this in the WIP, iirc...

 

However the casting and details are so beautiful that it's "almost" forgiven. ;)

Edited by Zero77

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I’ve heard the MiG-23 gear bays (1/32) fit well, which I hope is true.  

 

None of their 1/48 gear bays fit for crap. 

 

What amazes me is that this has been a well known issue with their stuff for literally YEARS, and I can’t believe they haven’t seen this criticism.  Yet they seem never to have tried to use their own products and experienced the same issues their customers experience.  It’s a shame, since the detail is generally outstanding, but it’s completely let down by being virtually unusable in most cases.

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Well, I think I went an add-on too far with the air brakes, but I'm too far into it to quit now. I am grateful to know I can drop the wheel wells into the kit parts, that should work. The cockpit will take thinning, so stay tuned. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences. Like with Jennings, I don't understand why Sprue Bros. and others are still carrying this stuff without some kind of user warning. I emailed them but have heard nothing.

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Used the wheel wells for the Trumpy Mig-23MF and they fitted great. I'm also currently using their A-7E cockpit and it fits easily and doesn't clash with the intake trunking.

Have seen some other horror shows though, so think I've just got lucky so far.

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47 minutes ago, Bill Cross said:

Well, I think I went an add-on too far with the air brakes, but I'm too far into it to quit now. I am grateful to know I can drop the wheel wells into the kit parts, that should work. The cockpit will take thinning, so stay tuned. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences. Like with Jennings, I don't understand why Sprue Bros. and others are still carrying this stuff without some kind of user warning. I emailed them but have heard nothing.

 

Who did you email, Sprue Brothers or Aires?  I’m not sure what the expectation is of a shop selling items is.  They simply sell product.  Everyone knows that some resin sets take a lot more fitting than others and even Aires says some thinning of parts may be required.  What user warning should shops put on products and where does it end?  Should they be expected to test each set and say this fits and this doesn’t?  What about paints, should there be a warning that a paint doesn’t accurately represent a color, or a kit or decal sheet has errors?  It’s not practical.  

 

It’s up to the buyer to determine whether a product works or not.  Fortunately, with the internet, it’s so easy to get information about almost any model product before you buy, either by finding a review, or simply asking a question on a forum.  You’ll get the answers.

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Dave, we will agree to disagree.

 

And you conflate many small complaints such as paint color not "matching" with what appears to be a general wave of opinion here that Aires sets are, well, less-than-wonderful.

 

Expressing my disappointment to Sprue Bros. may induce them (if others have had the same issues) to perhaps discontinue selling the products. That's not an unreasonable notion. Perhaps enough push-back and Aires will improve their products. "Caveat Emptor?" I have spent thousands of dollars at SB and I would not think it inappropriate that they take that into consideration. It doesn't necessarily mean I will take my business elsewhere, but when an airbrush supply company refused to take back a part I incorrectly ordered because I had opened it, I did take my business elsewhere.

 

I don't feel as though I need to post here every time I purchase something. It would get old and you'd be complaining about that. ;)

Edited by Bill Cross

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59 minutes ago, GusM said:

Used the wheel wells for the Trumpy Mig-23MF and they fitted great. I'm also currently using their A-7E cockpit and it fits easily and doesn't clash with the intake trunking.

Have seen some other horror shows though, so think I've just got lucky so far.

I have all the Aires stuff for the 1/32 A-7D, plus the Zacto corrections.

I'm interested to see how all of that will mash together.

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