Out2gtcha Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I know I'd pop for a Privateer conversion for SURE 100%. Especially after seeing the Pima example up close and personal Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Some great inspiration here - in 1:48: https://imodeler.com/2017/06/148-privateer-soonercon-an-inspiration-for-my-next-build/ Also - fate lent a hand this am when someone on one of the other model forums posted a batch of kits for sale - one of which was the 1:72 Revell (Matchbox) kit - plus the Cobra Company resin and vac detail set - so have purchased that for reference, along with a few other bits and bobs (the Cobra set looks superb). It's good to dream BiG (sometimes). Iain Uncarina, Out2gtcha, MikeC and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Iain (32SIG) said: Some great inspiration here - in 1:48: https://imodeler.com/2017/06/148-privateer-soonercon-an-inspiration-for-my-next-build/ That is one heck of a nice build right there. Iain and Kagemusha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Isn't it just Brian! Got home 10 mins ago - and my Schiffer book on the Privateer has arrived - some great stuff in there... #feelinginspired Iain Trak-Tor and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 See you Thursday, Iain.... If I make it across the Bay of Biscay!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Indeedy - see you next Thurs! As I'm using this thread as a bit of an information gathering repository - that might help other Privateer fans - here's another useful resource I've just found online - Flight Manual PB4Y-2 Airplane - which also includes a station diagram (factory dimensions frame, by frame, from common datum - priceless!) towards the end - as well as some really useful detail images: http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/consolidated/pb4yprivateer/flight-manual-pb4y-2-airplane.html And some even better photos - PB4Y-2 Line Maintenance Manual - radio/radar kit: http://aafradio.org/sidebar/PB4Y2_Line_Maintenance_Manual.html Hopefully not boring everyone! Iain Uncarina and D.B. Andrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 4:02 PM, titan said: Just sketchup with a bunch of plugins like curviloft and some of the spline tools. Sketchup by itself is pretty limited with the plugins it becomes significantly more capable. I'd rather use a more powerful package like Rhino but I don't have a spare $1,000 for that. Indeed - was trying to learn Rhino using the trial package - but ran out of time on the 3 month trial. Can't justify purchase unless I can get a return on it - maybe one day! I might take a look at sketchup! Happy to share any info on the Privateer I get with you if useful! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Found some superb photos of the Pima Air and Space Museum Privateer being repainted - scroll forwards and backwards to see more photos (mixed with a lot of other subjects) - but for clarity and detail, they are well worth it: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/jbezosky/40567688 Having seen the B-24J test shot images today there are elements of the breakdown that will make the Privateer conversion easier than it could have been - for example: Separate lower wing nacelles - the nacelles are very different in shape on the Privateer with the cowling shapes rotated through 90 deg. Wing root - separate spar - and wing-roots a flush/surface joint. Cut to make 7' fuselage extension won't be a vertical cut - but a 'dog leg' from behind upper turret opening to front edge of forward bomb bay. Wing root design also makes changes to the wing cross-sectional shape to more readily reflect the Davis Wing easier to achieve - but will wait until I have the B-24J kit in my hands before commenting further... Talking of kit in hands - the upper nose profile ahead of canopy looks like it may be wrong in the test shot photos - *if* it is it looks an easy enough fix with epoxy putty/a little reshaping. *Really* want to get one of these kits in my hands now... Iain Uncarina, D.B. Andrus and BloorwestSiR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:36 PM, Out2gtcha said: That is one heck of a nice build right there. It really is, I remember seeing it sometime ago, be wonderful to see one similar, or more, in 1/32. Heady days. Iain and BloorwestSiR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Thanks for posting url, Iain. Many useful photos of Privateer and others. Cheers, D.B. Iain and BloorwestSiR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'll keep going with links as/when I find them - it's a useful centralised 'parking lot' for me to refer back to (and hopefully for others) as I find stuff. Hoping thread will morph into an 'in progress' build/conversion from the New Year once we have the HB kits and we start the multi-engine GB. Have not felt as inspired about a potential new project, as I have about this one, in a very long time - so there's hope! If anyone else finds any useful resources, please chip in! Iain Kagemusha, BloorwestSiR and Uncarina 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I am just curious, are the Privateers a post production conversion, or was the airframe actually conceptualized, modified and engineered prior to production? Cheers Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Production airframes were new builds Alan - with design changes based upon US Navy experience with the PB4Y-1 Liberator... Interesting snippet I did find about the single tails on the B-24N (WarbirdTech Consolidated B-24 Liberator, Page 38) were initially designed to be compatible with the standard attachment fittings on the Liberator fuselage, for the possibility of supplying in kit form to convert twin-tailed airframes in the field. Iain alaninaustria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titan Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:58 AM, Iain (32SIG) said: Indeed - was trying to learn Rhino using the trial package - but ran out of time on the 3 month trial. Can't justify purchase unless I can get a return on it - maybe one day! I might take a look at sketchup! Happy to share any info on the Privateer I get with you if useful! Iain Many thanks. I'm going to start up a WIP thread hopefully this evening. I'd appreciate any help/feedback from the community as I attempt to move forward on this thing. Iain and Kagemusha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Thanks Iain, pretty interesting airframe history! Cheers Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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