ringleheim Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I made a thread for HLJ's review videos from the All Japan Model & Hobby Show in Tokyo, but no one seems very interested in them! Maybe the HK Lancaster fans will enjoy this video; you can get a good feel for the size and presence of the Lancaster and see the clear parts. It's the first thing shown in the video. Edited October 9, 2018 by ringleheim Trak-Tor and Southern Bandit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATCplSlade Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 When they compare the Ratte to the B-52, you really realize just how insane those Paper Panzers were. scvrobeson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Given this is a Lanc thread, any thing else would be in a separate thread. We have now a first look at both Lancaster kits. There are differences, but keep any discussion civil, show some respect for others positions. We are discussing a model plane here. Discussion should be germane to what we are seeing in the kit(s). Bill_S, Artful69, Jan_G and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancman Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Ok I'll be first to put my head on the chopping block but how did HK with all the experts that were on board make such a mistake with the intakes. I have been through loads of books looking at MkI Lancs and they are a lot smaller than the kit ones, it looks like HK has the later tropical intakes in the kit. So in my mind they will have to be replaced and more than likely by another supplier unless HK has another set of smaller intakes in the release. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 There is something off with that picture Graham, the intakes look fine to my Mk V eyeball. They are not that small? I have some of my own frontal pics I will post when I get home. LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancman Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hi Ron, great but I'm sure the flying Lancs of today and Just Jane have the deeper intakes. I hate bringing this up but I've/we have waited sooooo long for an injected kit I'd hate it if they have screwed the pooch, but compared to the ID vac I fought with for so many years it's a god send and the choice of another next year is amazing. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 The WNW Lanc intakes look very similar to what HKM has done. I suspect they're both correct. PhilB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seiran01 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not only did HK get the intakes wrong for European theater but the radiators are also incorrect for wartime birds. The more angular shaped radiators in the kit are the tropical post-war ones. My thinking is that they just copied the BBMF Lanc and didn't think twice... The ETO radiators are more curved and appear to be in two sections. I posted photos up on the Facebook group "1/32 Lancaster Assembly Line" showing the differences, can repost here if folks are interested... It looks like the CWH Lanc in Canada may have the correct radiators for ETO, certainly the wartime intakes at least. Kagemusha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 WNW specifically calls out that their kits will have the European theater intakes and radiators, scvrobeson and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Does that mean I can't build Just Jane as a Dambuster, in a sort of tribute-to-all, without getting a bollo**ing ?! Tony (no offence meant, but I'm prolly BBMF with extras) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Strange, Every Lancaster I've seen has these intakes as far as I remember, Nanton, IWM, Calgary Aviation Museum, Canadian Warplane Heritage and the BOB flight planes. Perhaps because all but the BOB one are Mk X's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 hours ago, seiran01 said: Not only did HK get the intakes wrong for European theater but the radiators are also incorrect for wartime birds. The more angular shaped radiators in the kit are the tropical post-war ones. My thinking is that they just copied the BBMF Lanc and didn't think twice... The ETO radiators are more curved and appear to be in two sections. I posted photos up on the Facebook group "1/32 Lancaster Assembly Line" showing the differences, can repost here if folks are interested... It looks like the CWH Lanc in Canada may have the correct radiators for ETO, certainly the wartime intakes at least. Please do post them here. A number of member dont use FB. Southern Bandit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 there's a lot of interpretation needed when looking at black and white poor quality (compared to today) photos from 70 or 80 years ago. If only we could have seen them in the flesh at the time we'd know for certain but I'm grateful to my dad's generation which had to endure that nightmare rather than me. If you look at the photo Lancman posted I can't see a single piece of oilcan skin on the plane but the conversation has been all about that being replicated because it was present but based on those phots I'd say it wasn't. I guess I'm not that much of a perfectionist and I take my hat off to those of you that are and put great effort into making what they consider to be 100% accurate. My take on all this is that this kit will look fantastic, I'll get hours of enjoyment from making it, I'll have nowhere to put it other than my loft once complete but every single person who sees it (and who has a tad of knowledge of WW2 aircraft) will know it's a lancaster, oilcan skin or not, slight oversized air intakes or not and any other perceived fault. For me I'm really grateful that I have a 1/32 injection kit (with more to follow) available to me in whatever % of accuracy it is. I'm even more grateful that companies are putting effort into 1/32 aircraft with many more new aircraft joining the ranks - they are making a middle aged man very happy. Jan_G, mozart, PhilB and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff T Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, npb748r said: If you look at the photo Lancman posted I can't see a single piece of oilcan skin on the plane but the conversation has been all about that being replicated because it was present but based on those phots I'd say it wasn't. Jeez, you're better than I am if you can tell that, from that photo, it's so grainy and washed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafju Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hi On pre order here: https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/7vflo3dlqll6lhxk6dq3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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