Gazzas Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hi everyone! I admit I hate painting cockpit details. It's not the actual effort to do so... It's just that my IP's generally look like crap. I found an Eduard set for a plane I am building... but I have a lot more faith in decals than sticky stuff. Appreciate it! Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) I can appreciate using the Eduard color PE as they have some nice (although not always accurate) detail, although there are some drawbacks, like base cockpit colors that are wrong and difficult to match, and obvious 2D flatness. Not a big fan of the self adhesive ones, though. You get one chance to place, and if you have one part to overlay over another, like an IP over a dial panel, it’s annoying if you don’t get the alignment right on the first try. You can peel the PE off, but you risk bending it and pulling up the underlying paint. I think the latest sets dropped the self-adhesive part, which I’m happy about. Edited October 5, 2018 by Dave Williams Southern Bandit, Gazzas and LSP_K2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmthamade Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, Gazzas said: Hi everyone! I admit I hate painting cockpit details. It's not the actual effort to do so... It's just that my IP's generally look like crap. I found an Eduard set for a plane I am building... but I have a lot more faith in decals than sticky stuff. Appreciate it! Gaz My cockpit work isn't that great, so the stick on details are a welcome option. What I do find is a flat coat really helps to even out the panel finish. After the flat coat goes on, I use Bondic UV glue or Future to add a lens to each gauge face. I'll probably use a few more sets. Don CANicoll, Southern Bandit, Gazzas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave Williams said: I can appreciate using the Eduard color PE as they have some nice (although not always accurate) detail, although there are some drawbacks, like base cockpit colors that are wrong and difficult to match, and obvious 2D flatness. Not a big fan of the self adhesive ones, though. You get one chance to place, and if you have one part to overlay over another, like an IP over a dial panel, it’s annoying if you don’t get the alignment right on the first try. You can peel the PE off, but you risk bending it and pulling up the underlying paint. I think the latest sets dropped the self-adhesive part, which I’m happy about. I remember a guy over at the warship forums. He'd kill the factory adhesive on the undersides of the wooden decks with hairspray and then use CA to glue the pieces once he had them set where he wanted. Might be a useful technique here. Thought I dislike the flatness, my painted stuff just looks untidy. So I'll live with the trade-off. Thanks for the great response! Gaz Southern Bandit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, dmthamade said: My cockpit work isn't that great, so the stick on details are a welcome option. What I do find is a flat coat really helps to even out the panel finish. After the flat coat goes on, I use Bondic UV glue or Future to add a lens to each gauge face. I'll probably use a few more sets. Don Good idea with the UV glue. Fortunately, I have some! Thanks! Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimHepplestone Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I have a 1/48 Mitchell with and IP rartling around the cockpit - courtesy of the sticky stuffon the eduard coming loose. So now I always use a bit of CA on the larger bits or future on the smaller bits to make sure they stay secure Other than that I love them Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dog Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I have not had any of them come loose yet and some are several years old dating back to when the self adhesive sets were first released. That said I usually put a drop of Future into the instrument openings to provide a lens and this often times seeps between the layers so that may be supplementing Eduard's adhesive. I also have found that flat coating the upper layer helps reducing the grainy appearance. While I like not needed to paint them, of late I've become dissatisfied with the one dimensional appearance of the Eduard sets for 1/32 and have been using supplied decals or Airscale's over the instruments or using the Yuhu panels instead. I still use Eduard's for the smaller scale stuff. Gazzas and coogrfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade rowlands Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If it’s just instrument panels you want and there’s one available for whatever kit you’re building I’d go for Yahu over Eduard panels every time, their colour choices are better and there’s no grainy printed texture to the part. Gazzas and coogrfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I've had Eduard P/E cockpit stuff chip on me in the past. Usually a little chip off the corner. I find the stuff kind of annoying and their RLM 66 color is not accurate. Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I have used a bunch, and I agree, the self adhesive never lets go. So far they stick. Honestly, I don’t like the flatness either, but sometimes lazy wins out. It only takes a few minutes with the SA panels. However, Yahu makes a much nicer panel, but choice is limited. Also, a new player is the new Eduard Look series. I wish more makers made PE panels, but with acetate backs. My P-40B has a beautiful acetate panel. Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANicoll Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 23 hours ago, Gazzas said: Good idea with the UV glue. Fortunately, I have some! Thanks! Gaz Gaz, get some Formula 560. It can be used to attach canopies as it dries clear, but is also pretty sticky so I use it for attaching PE as well. PLUS, if you put a drop over an instrument face it doesn't flatten out like Future does - it actually dries slightly rounded like a glass cover. I've started using that on my IP's. Good luck! Chris Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Note that some of the latest Eduard etch panels have the clear lenses printed on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanKB Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I use them - they are excellent, saving a lot of time and effort and giving a genuinely good finish, albeit sometimes having to take the colours down a peg or two sometimes. The new Eduard "Look" sets are also pretty good, with a dashboard and seat-belt included. I got the Mustang one, for about £6-£7 I think? 20181015_021730 by dekenba1, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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