WINGNUT WINGS LANCASTER!!!!!!!!!

[MikeMaben]

Seems it shouldn't be to difficult to un-uniform it with some sandpaper.  

 

 

[esarmstrong]

12 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

Seems it shouldn't be to difficult to un-uniform it with some sandpaper.  

 

 

Not sure if this is tongue in cheek, but if I am thinking about laying down $400.00 for a model, the last thing I had better be doing is sanding down detail and raised rivets.

[Out2gtcha]

9 minutes ago, esarmstrong said:

................... if I am thinking about laying down $400.00 for a model, the last thing I had better be doing is sanding down detail and raised rivets.

 

 

Id probably have to agree with that statement.    If Im spending +$350 USD on a kit, Id be hesitant to start in sanding down a majority of that HUGE airframe. 

 

I have to say, this is likely the first foray for WnW into the world of getting critiqued by modelers. Prior to the Lanc release, all of Sir Peters releases were near impossible to critique, as no current examples are in existence, save very few, and no one alive really possesses the knowledge to say whether or not any model or any one part of a model is actually accurate or not.  

 

Well have to see what the future holds on that front.   I think the oil-canning will come down to personal preference of the modeler themselves.. 

[vince14]

3 minutes ago, Out2gtcha said:

I have to say, this is likely the first foray for WnW into the world of getting critiqued by modelers. Prior to the Lanc release, all of Sir Peters releases were near impossible to critique, as no current examples are in existence, save very few, and no one alive really possesses the knowledge to say whether or not any model or any one part of a model is actually accurate or not.

I can't agree with that statement. There's a wide body of knowledge about WWI aircraft, which includes such things as factory drawings in many cases. Just because there are no ancient Egyptians left alive today doesn't mean we don't know how the pyramids were built.

[Out2gtcha]

27 minutes ago, vince14 said:

I can't agree with that statement. There's a wide body of knowledge about WWI aircraft, which includes such things as factory drawings in many cases. Just because there are no ancient Egyptians left alive today doesn't mean we don't know how the pyramids were built.

 

 

True.

However, the facts bare out that WnW has not really been critiqued prior, in the way they are getting critiqued on their Lanc.   The knowledge of WWI,  both cumulative and individually of the overall accuracy  of aircraft  in that era by the average modeler is minuscule VS the fairly abundant knowledge the average user may have for say WWII/Nam ect, ect. 

My point being, is only that WnW are in fact getting judged on their Lancaster in a manor that they have not been prior. 

[John1]

I’m still optimistic that this effect will be a bit more subdued under a coat of black paint.   Regardless, it’s a pronounced feature of the real thing, so if I had to choose between HK’s approach or WNW’s, it’s an easy decision.   

 

Where are you guys seeing $450 for a retail cost?   

[Dave Williams]

2 hours ago, Out2gtcha said:

 

 

True.

However, the facts bare out that WnW has not really been critiqued prior, in the way they are getting critiqued on their Lanc.   The knowledge of WWI,  both cumulative and individually of the overall accuracy  of aircraft  in that era by the average modeler is minuscule VS the fairly abundant knowledge the average user may have for say WWII/Nam ect, ect. 

My point being, is only that WnW are in fact getting judged on their Lancaster in a manor that they have not been prior. 

 

And that may not bode well for them deciding to ever do another non-WW1 aircraft.

[Out2gtcha]

5 minutes ago, Dave Williams said:

 

And that may not bode well for them deciding to ever do another non-WW1 aircraft.

 

 

Agreed. I dont like that, as Id LOVE for them to put out a WWII fighter, but I think it may be a factor..........or maybe not. It seems Sir Peter pretty much does what he wants and damn the torpedoes. 

[John1]

1 hour ago, Dave Williams said:

 

And that may not bode well for them deciding to ever do another non-WW1 aircraft.

Why?   Do you think Sir Peter is so thinned skinned that if self-proclaimed experts critique his products, he’ll simply quit that genre?  

 

I haven’t seen any indication that public opinion (or for that matter, retail success) has any impact on his business decisions.  

[STWilliams]

40 minutes ago, John1 said:

Why?   Do you think Sir Peter is so thinned skinned that if self-proclaimed experts critique his products, he’ll simply quit that genre?  

 

I haven’t seen any indication that public opinion (or for that matter, retail success) has any impact on his business decisions.  

He couldn't care less. Wingnut Wings produce basically whatever he fancies building at home one rainy evening. He fancies a Lancaster in 1/32, and he's getting himself a Lancaster in 1/32. I get the feeling that if he wanted to build a 1/4 size scale model of a seagull, he'd just go ahead and get an injected plastic 1/4 scale model of a seagull produced. Then we'd have different breeds of seagulls, different colourings of seagulls, baby seagulls,  boxed squabbles of seagulls, etc. They'd be the best 1/4 scale seagulls anywhere, as long as you didn't want an American, Italian, Austro-Hungarian or French seagull, because you can bet your bottom dollar Mr Jackson would like Anglo-German seagulls. But he'd ignore the most famous German seagull, despite consumers queueing around the world for one, because he's funny like that. But he'd produce a few obscure German seagulls, and multiple British seagulls, even though their all the same dull colour.

[chrish]

That reminds me...

Question; What?! Is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Reply; What do you mean? A European or African swallow!?

All the bird nonsense reminded me...who here remembers that line and from what movie?

[Out2gtcha]

I dont know that!

 

Actually yes, I do

 

[chrish]

Lol!

thats awesome!

now back to our regularly scheduled debating

[MikeMaben]

12 hours ago, esarmstrong said:

Not sure if this is tongue in cheek, but if I am thinking about laying down $400.00 for a model, the last thing I had better be doing is sanding down detail and raised rivets.

 

Just throwing out an idea for the WNW fanatics. I'ts too huge for me.

If I did have one , I wouldn't sand the entire surface, just areas that looked

too heavy. Since the rivets and panel lines would be lower than the surface

of the canning, I think one could 'lower the hills closer to the valleys' without

losing any detail.

 

 

[LSP_Ray]

I will be real interested in seeing the finished product once the WNW kit comes out. I have a feeling under flat camo paint, especially black, the oil-canning will become subdued.

BTW, a realistic oil-canning should show some panels as "innies", some as "outies" and some simply dead flat. Also, it isn't really overly 'stressed' as being flown a 100 times. Sheet metal will oil can simply due to temperature change, like being directly in the sun and then a cloud passing by, you can hear metal panels pop if you are near. Over-stressed skin often shows as diagonal ripples from it being over stretched in one direction. WNW has displayed that in their fabric in a couple of kits.