Gazzas Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) Hi All, Recently I completed the Eduard Bf109 WE kit: It had some shape issues which really killed my enthusiasm for the build. I've seen box art from Cyberhobby Wing Tech Series and Trumpy. Are these all OK, or is there one to avoid? Also... at a recent show I saw a 1/32 109E that had a really weird looking tail fin... Anyone know which one that is? Thanks for your thoughts! Gaz Edited September 23, 2018 by Gazzas change word Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 From my own standpoint and from the best to the worst: 1. Cyberhobby 2. Eduard 3. Trumpeter 4. Matchbox 5. Hasegawa Hth Thierry Big Texan, D.B. Andrus, Greg W and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Cyberhobby, big time. Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, thierry laurent said: From my own standpoint and from the best to the worst: 1. Cyberhobby 2. Eduard 3. Trumpeter 4. Matchbox 5. Hasegawa Hth Thierry While I haven't built all those kits, I agree with Thierry's list here. Kev Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Like Jennings said above, I can’t speak for the trumpeter kit but I’ve built the Cyberhobby wingtech kit and other than the instructions (not even a surprise at that point) the kit is...in my opinion, perfect. Other than those already mention instructions! i liked it so much I bought another! Rick Griewski, LSP_K2, Gazzas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Guys, Thanks for the great replies! So shocked to see Hasegawa at the bottom of Thierry's list. Thanks for the info on the cyberhobby directions. The one good thing about the 109, is there isn't much difference between versions, so anybody that has two can usually do the rest without directions if required...lol Thanks again! Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Gazzas said: So shocked to see Hasegawa at the bottom of Thierry's list. The Hasegawa kit dates back to the early '70s, and not only reflects the kind of detail offered in kits of that era, but also suffers a number of egregious shape issues. I tried to make a fist of one around 10 years ago (!), which turned out OK in the end, but any of the others available today would be a better option. Kev Rick Griewski and Gazzas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSP_Kevin said: The Hasegawa kit dates back to the early '70s, and not only reflects the kind of detail offered in kits of that era, but also suffers a number of egregious shape issues. I tried to make a fist of one around 10 years ago (!), which turned out OK in the end, but any of the others available today would be a better option. Kev You did some great work on that one Kev! I applaud you for finishing it. I hate buying a kit and not finishing it. I feel like I've wasted money even though I really hate working past whichever issue is getting me down. The Eduard kit had the humpy rear half of the fuselage, but I finished it. I've only chucked three kits in the last three years, two of which have been Eduard. Gaz LSP_Kevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade rowlands Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The cyber Hobby kit is designed to have the cowlings off and engine on display, it takes a little work, sanding and fettling to get things closed up if like me you prefer panels closed up. But it is worth the effort. I’ve build the E-3 and E-4 boxes in the past, the E-3 became a bit of a sacrificial Goat in learning how to deal with the cowls and it was also being converted to a Swiss Air Force airframe which were slightly different. I like the kit, good cockpit detail and instrument panel out of the box, the rubber that simulates the canvas boot in the gear well needs a good scrub to ensure the paint sticks to it. I haven’t built the Eduard kit but do like it’s surface detail. I have a cyber Hobby E-7 version to be built in the stash and am hoping to put all lessons learnt from the other versions into building it. As stated above, the instructions as with most of the Dragon/cyber Hobby aircraft I’ve built are less than stellar. Not as bad as the Bf 110 instructions though. Greg W and Gazzas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, LSP_Kevin said: While I haven't built all those kits, I agree with Thierry's list here. Kev Having built them all, I agree with him 100% Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, ade rowlands said: The cyber Hobby kit is designed to have the cowlings off and engine on display, it takes a little work, sanding and fettling to get things closed up if like me you prefer panels closed up. But it is worth the effort. I’ve build the E-3 and E-4 boxes in the past, the E-3 became a bit of a sacrificial Goat in learning how to deal with the cowls and it was also being converted to a Swiss Air Force airframe which were slightly different. I like the kit, good cockpit detail and instrument panel out of the box, the rubber that simulates the canvas boot in the gear well needs a good scrub to ensure the paint sticks to it. I haven’t built the Eduard kit but do like it’s surface detail. I have a cyber Hobby E-7 version to be built in the stash and am hoping to put all lessons learnt from the other versions into building it. As stated above, the instructions as with most of the Dragon/cyber Hobby aircraft I’ve built are less than stellar. Not as bad as the Bf 110 instructions though. I do prefer my planes sealed up. Does anyone know if those alley cat conversions for earlier 109's work for the Cyberhobby kits? Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Not easily, I everything needed to do one and plan to attempt it. The way the Cyberhobby wing is laid out with a left, right and center section will make it difficult Gazzas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful69 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yep Thierry has the list in the best order ... The Cyber Hobby kit is the go to for the E-3 onwards. The cowl fit is a bit fiddly but the achilles heel of this kit, as said above, is the instructions which are a bit of a minefield. Not as bad as the Bf.110 instructions though!! The Eduard kit isn't all that bad, really - The cowl fit is worse than the Cyber Hobby kit and the wing slats need a tone down - but reviews by those in the know say the shape isn't all that far off!! ... and it's the only E-1 option out there ... unless wing surgery to a Cyber Hobby kit is something you'd like. The Trumpeter kit has some shape issues - more so than the Eduard kit ... but the engineering/fit of the kit makes for a more pleasant experience in the build than either of the above IMO. If accuracy is less of an issue to the builder than stripping out hair follicles in construction - then this is the kit for you! Matchbox and Hasegawa fall into the same category for mine ... Too old to compete with the newer kits ... detail is weird, fit is a wrestle and inaccuracies abound. Of the two Matchbox would be the clear winner though. Rog Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Artful69 said: Matchbox and Hasegawa fall into the same category for mine ... Too old to compete with the newer kits ... detail is weird, fit is a wrestle and inaccuracies abound. Of the two Matchbox would be the clear winner though. The Matchbox kit is actually far superior to the Hasegawa one, and far more accurate, too. I'd say it rivals its modern counterparts in that regard. Kev Rick Griewski, LSP_Ron and coogrfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Agreed 100% Rick Griewski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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