Gazzas Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 HI everyone, I'm looking for ventral views of 109's for weathering purposes. If you have any you can post, I'd greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Emil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ivan Ivanovich Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Friedrich... Fairly versifft, but not as versifft as you might expect... D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Great pictures Martin! I've got two Gustavs and one Emil to weather. The one with English markings I've seen before. I know they tested it a lot. What I find interesting on the Emils is how much of the staining actually starts so far back on the fuselage. I wonder if that was the extent of wiping done by the ground crew. Thank you! Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Ivan, Great photo! Thank you! I had to go to google translate to find out versifft meant. I am, unfortunately, one of those single-language speakers. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATCplSlade Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Gazzas said: Ivan, Great photo! Thank you! I had to go to google translate to find out versifft meant. I am, unfortunately, one of those single-language speakers. Gaz There are many translation apps available for smartphones (if you have one) that are quite handy when you come across situations such as that, and quicker than having to go through Google Translate. I highly recommend trying them. I use them at work with ESL students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Google Translate works well. I use it all the time at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Thanks for the suggestion. But honestly, I avoid looking at pictures on my phone as much as possible. I prefer a bigger screen as my eyesight worsens. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Not too many underside pics some that may be of use: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/messerschmitt_bf109/ https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/messerschmitt-bf-109/ https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/bf109/ https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/aircrafts-2/bf_109/ Jari Rick Griewski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Also, I would like to point at the difference in the shape and coverage of the exhaust staines, a detail that is given by the asymmetry of the airframe and airflow and very often neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 one more Emil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 One rule of thumb, if you didn't already know: Exhaust stains for German aircraft were always black or very dark brown-black due to their low quality fuel. US and British stains are typically much lighter in color, tans and browns, as they used higher quality, and I think higher octane fuel. And it seems all WWII aircraft trailed quite a bit of oil, especially the radials which really threw it out. Even the Collingsworth B-17, which no doubt sees a lot of maintenance, had good sized puddles under some of the radials after flight ( I actually overheard a couple of Collingsworth staff looking at the puddle under one engine and comment how it might be time for another overhaul). spacewolf and Gazzas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, Martinnfb said: Also, I would like to point at the difference in the shape and coverage of the exhaust staines, a detail that is given by the asymmetry of the airframe and airflow and very often neglected. You sir, are a font of useful information. I had never noticed this. Thank you. I know that in many cases, the Luftwaffe ground crews wiped the exhaust stains off fighters. But I can't be certain it was universal. For instance, Barkhorn's machines are all pretty clean in photos. It would be interesting to see some pictures of this bird closely after capture before it was used as a squadron hack. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 here , Bf 109G2Trop black 14 Metz WNr 10605 Zarzis Tunisia Mar 1943-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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