alaninaustria Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hello everybody, can anybody tell me if there is substantial proof that Red 10 had the same RLM 76 upper surfaces, mottled together with RLM 81/83 - INCLUDING the upper wing surfaces?? I’ve been pouring over my sources and I am still confused!! The a/c in question is Werk Nummer: 1110635 (Me-262 B-1a/U1 of 10. NJG. Thanxs Cheers Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrown Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Photo evidence supports the overall RLM 76 with applied mottle. As far as mottle colors, RLM 75 is possible or perhaps 81 and/or 82... Edited August 10, 2018 by RBrown D.B. Andrus and LSP_Matt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 For what it's worth, most models of Red 10 that I am seeing have the upper wing surfaces painted the same as the rest of the aircraft. Also happens to look good that way in my opinion! alaninaustria, D.B. Andrus, Rick Griewski and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Not sure if this will help, but here goes: LSP_Matt and RBrown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrown Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) To speculate further the port nacelle on Red 10 looks like a reverse mottle of RLM 76 over original (81/82?) with black under surfaces. The color image posted by Damian looks like the typical Luftwaffe night fighter scheme of RLM 75 over 76 with at least the nacelles and the starboard wing in black. Note the under surface of the fuselage is not painted black. Edited August 12, 2018 by RBrown D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 And the upper horizontal tail surfaces are solid green. Mark Proulx RBrown and D.B. Andrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrown Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 FE-610 again, but here the dark colors appear green instead of gray... and a head-on shot, showing partial views of the the upper and lower wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mark P said: And the upper horizontal tail surfaces are solid green. Mark Proulx Mark, would you speculate RLM 81 or 82? Cheers and thanks for the 8nput guys! Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Well, when I researched the Me 262 B decals for Eagle Editions (sheet 170), I concluded 82 or 83 for the horizontal surfaces. However, there is always a standard Luftwaffe disclaimer!!! It did surprise me that few actually noticed this unique feature of Red 10. It isn't difficult to miss if you look closely at the photos. HTH Mark Proulx alaninaustria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrown Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Me 262 B colors The link above (Pages 10-16) will take you to an analysis of the colors of Red 10 and three other Me 262s assigned to NJG 10. Based on documentation by Mr. R. Belling (who examined one of the aircraft in 1954) and period photos, the article provides compelling evidence for the use of the late war greens in conjunction with RLM 76. Edited August 13, 2018 by RBrown MikeMaben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraic Conway Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, RBrown said: Me 262 B colors The link above (Pages 11-16) will take you to an analysis of the colors of Red 10 and three other Me 262s assigned to NJG 10. Based on documentation by Mr. R. Belling (who examined one of the aircraft in 1954) and period photos, the article provides compelling evidence for the use of the late war greens in conjunction with RLM 76. Thanks so much for this. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Rivet counting to the extreme. alaninaustria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alaninaustria Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Gerhard said: Rivet counting to the extreme. That’s why we’re all here!! Troy Molitor, Azor and MikeMaben 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Really appreciate all the constructive feedback gentlemen! Thank you!! Cheers Alan Out2gtcha and Rick Griewski 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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