JayW Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just amazing Peter - realism and cool factor way up high! Out2gtcha, daHeld and airscale 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Yep, this is one of those threads that can give hope as to what is possible, yet give despair to us mere modelling mortals that we will likely never achieve anything like it. airscale, daHeld and Lothar 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahman104 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Just love every update Peter! You spoke about overlapping the leading edge sheet to make sure everything lines up; do you do this for all the panels or is it more just those tricky ones and due to the softer material you're using on the leading edge that you do this? Awesome as always! Craig airscale and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 hello again folks On 5/22/2019 at 1:37 AM, brahman104 said: Just love every update Peter! You spoke about overlapping the leading edge sheet to make sure everything lines up; do you do this for all the panels or is it more just those tricky ones and due to the softer material you're using on the leading edge that you do this? Awesome as always! Craig Hi Craig - I only do this when using annealed litho, or the soft ali I use for compound curves - a good example of this comes in a minute when doing the stabiliser fillets - it's a really good way of getting a virtually invisible seam rather than trying to butt two complex edges together.. So, fillets.... they are all curved as you woulkd expect, some in multiple directions - I was hoping the dorsal fin was the last panel as the very tip of it overlaps the fuselage skin I can't add until the cockpit is in.. but no, it's the first panel down - I guess as it's the least removed in service.. ..to get an idea of the area, this is for a P51C without a dorsal fin - I couldn't find too much on one with a fin and all the resto pics I have of Lopes Hope do not yet have all the fillets fitted so some assumptions were made from what I could see that they are pretty similar to a 'D' model.. ..you can see curvature & shapes and the fittings that fasten them too ..I did the dorsal fin but forgot to take pics, so this is the upper forward fillet first.. ..a sheet is bent & taped down to start the forming process.. ..a ball pein hammer is used to gently beat it into shape, and helped with balsa rubbing blocks and hard wood coffee stirrers.. ..here I am trying to get it to conform to the leading edge and the curved part that runs out onto the fuselage.. ..after shaping a number of scaled templates were used to derive the shapes - these are side views so I have to allow for the shape as it curves away from the eye.. ..and soon all the fillets were in place ready for final shaping & smoothing - at the leading edge you can see where the panels overlap - by sanding away the overlap a perfect seam results - in fact on the full size one this is a butt weld which is finished on the outside.. ..after final finishing and finessing some of the edges, the fasteners were added - this was a vet labourious process as each one must be punched, then marked with an awl for the fastner, then flattened, then added - there are about 60 each side.. ..once the other side has it's fasteners (I can only do so many at a time without getting bored..), I will move along the underside to the air scoop & exit under the fuselage.. TTFN Peter brahman104, Out2gtcha, Kagemusha and 18 others 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorbenD Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Looking mighty fine there Peter - masterful stuff and, as ever, it’s a genuine, inspirational joy to follow this build. Torben airscale and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 The best my friend, has to be said. airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 you do realize after you are done we all going to hang up our modeling tools and quit! Hacker daHeld and airscale 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Hacker said: you do realize after you are done we all going to hang up our modeling tools and quit! No, no, no, F-86F next!! airscale, Kagemusha and williamj 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vincent Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 i wish I had the guts to do something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Your Dzus fasteners are better than mine! By alot! Can you elaborate how you have done them? airscale and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Vincent/MDC said: i wish I had the guts to do something like that +1 airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahman104 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Thanks for the clarification Peter! I know you've done this process a few times on various projects now, but your fillets and compound curve work just blow me away. The Dzus fasteners really set the effect off too. Brilliant stuff. Craig airscale and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark64 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 oh man thats sweet looking. Pete, you rock Oliver airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Very nice. Great work on a problem area, Peter. Sincerely, Mark airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 thank you chaps - I do really appreciate your kind words after a day of looking at the fasteners - I have to accept they are over scale... I could not find a drawing that had the fastener size, just the hole size, but then I saw the hatches below the stabilister have the same size fasteners and I have that drawing, and it has that dimension.. basically they should scale to 0.85mm and the smallest puch I have is 1mm, it doesn't sound much, and maybe it's not the diameter that is troubling me so much as the thickness - they look like big bolts and they should be shallow and streamlined.. I need to buy a smaller scale punch set, and I need to think about a thinner material to use.. they are all coming off... TTFN Peter BlackCanopy, Trak-Tor, Uilleann and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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