Barry Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Fantastic work as always Peter! Thanks for the link to Eileens, I'm always on the lookout for brass shapes. Do you have a source or method for making "hat" shaped brass? Barry Harold, airscale and daHeld 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Looks great! Any modifications necessary for fit? Or did you hit it on the money? Thank you. Sincerely, Mark airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I am good but not that friggin good! l know it is not but you do make it look easy Hacker airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 airscale, KiwiZac and daHeld 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 nothing you do surprises me any more Peter, brilliant stuff daHeld and airscale 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Amazing. Kev airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Yeah Peter - your fuselage jig and the parts build-up are unprecedented far as I can tell. Question - what h-section did you select for the longerons? How tall? They look just about just like a scaled part. With Miss Velma, I had to significantly reduce the section height of the longerons due to the .08 thick walls of the fuselage. P-51 fuselage skins were on the order of 0.06 inch (about three thousands in 1/18), a far cry from 0.08 inch!!! What thickness skins will you have? I ask because if the longerons are scaled to the real parts, and they protrude too far inboard, you will likely be presented with clearance difficulties with the seat and other wide items in the cockpit. airscale and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 3:06 PM, dodgem37 said: Looks great! Any modifications necessary for fit? Or did you hit it on the money? Thank you. Sincerely, Mark Thanks Mark - surprisingly most fitted - because the stations are taken from drawings the upper & lower fit was a bit of fettling, but on the whole it fits very well. In fact the armor plated headrest actually slides into its mount holes and these were two different parts made months apart so it is a testament to how building from drawings can work out :) On 8/31/2018 at 3:04 AM, JayW said: Yeah Peter - your fuselage jig and the parts build-up are unprecedented far as I can tell. Question - what h-section did you select for the longerons? How tall? They look just about just like a scaled part. With Miss Velma, I had to significantly reduce the section height of the longerons due to the .08 thick walls of the fuselage. P-51 fuselage skins were on the order of 0.06 inch (about three thousands in 1/18), a far cry from 0.08 inch!!! What thickness skins will you have? I ask because if the longerons are scaled to the real parts, and they protrude too far inboard, you will likely be presented with clearance difficulties with the seat and other wide items in the cockpit. Hi Jay - thank you :) the longerons are 3mm sq H section - just under scale and I may have been better with the 3.5mm, but they are there now so thats fine, In terms of skin thickness, I am not really worried about it as where the cockpit sills are it is likely there will just be a litho outer skin so it is actually in scale with the original. I will try and preserve as much of the fibregalss cockpit section I have cut away as possible as it gives the overall structure strength & shape, but where it meets the sills it will be just litho.. thanks for dropping in :) so some skins are on - this isjust one sheet of litho added while the parts were in the jig - that way I know these are dimensionally correct.. ,,added rivet strips where the stations meet the walls ..the other side has the mounting fixture for the control pedestal.. .. I will end up with two detailed walls I can then start making into the whole.. .. I have also got myself a bit confused - see the map case here & the size it is in relation to the gap between it's adjacent fuselage station.. ..looks to be almost a station to stations width.. ..this is my version - scaled from the drawing at 12" tall.. ..to me it looks undersized so am just trying to check if there were two versions or if it is just a trick of perspective in the photo of the real cockpit.. back soon TTFN Peter LSP_Kevin, Starfighter, Landrotten Highlander and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexM Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Great Heavy Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgem37 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Love the hell out of that cut-out! Nice detail, and nice fabrications. '..this is my version - scaled from the drawing at 12" tall..' Maybe 9 x 12 to accommodate an 8-1/2 x 11? Your other parts appear on the money. So why not that? Just sayin' Great show. Sincerely, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtwpsom2 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, airscale said: ..to me it looks undersized so am just trying to check if there were two versions or if it is just a trick of perspective in the photo of the real cockpit.. back soon TTFN Peter If you look at assembly 102-53028, you'll see why it looks short to you. The first thing to note is the map case is flush with the inside flat part of the longeron and the inside flange of sta 131.5, it is not mounted to the fuselage skin. Secondly 102-53028-2 is an L shaped sheet that goes behind the map case but is also flush with the inside face, it takes up the space below and behind the map case. The map case itself is in a pair of channels mounted to the front of that sheet and can actually be lowered about 4-5 inches for some extra storage space behind. Edited September 2, 2018 by rtwpsom2 airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Peter, Speaking of tricks of perspective; the roll over bar seems to be leaning towards the nose. Is that throwing your dimensions? airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaffyMan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Wow Peter - taking this one to the next level - If that is even possible!!!!! Even the Jig looks amazing Keep at it - Taff daHeld and airscale 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Looks like a full size build! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 6:18 AM, rtwpsom2 said: If you look at assembly 102-53028, you'll see why it looks short to you. The first thing to note is the map case is flush with the inside flat part of the longeron and the inside flange of sta 131.5, it is not mounted to the fuselage skin. Secondly 102-53028-2 is an L shaped sheet that goes behind the map case but is also flush with the inside face, it takes up the space below and behind the map case. The map case itself is in a pair of channels mounted to the front of that sheet and can actually be lowered about 4-5 inches for some extra storage space behind. well thanks again rtwpsom2 - very useful guidance :) I have tried to interpret what I see in photo's and the drawings and have now mounted it - hopefully this is near the mark? got a main switchpanel up near the IP to start on next... TTFN Peter Uilleann, LSP_Kevin, NukerDan and 11 others 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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