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CONTINUATION OF MY 1:20 SCALE SCRATCH BUILT B17G (RADIO ROOM)

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How much yogurt can one man eat?? Mind fully boggled, chapeau Fozzy!

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Nicely detailed efforts.  I'd like to point out , just as an FYI, that combat B-17's did not have ball turrets with external ammo cans.  If you're replicating a war bird , that's a different story.  Doesn't detract from your efforts one bit, just a little FYI in case you're interested. 

 

I also realize it's too late to change but production 17G's, with the exception of Douglas built ships (I just discovered) weren't painted interior green (and in those Douglas ships only the waist area appears to have been painted interior green).  

 

Again, not any ding on the build, on the contrary, its inspirational.  I'd never be able to pull off what you've done.  Just a little FYI in case you'd ever do this again on a kit. Also, if your attempt is to replicate a war bird then you're perfectly correct to paint the insides interior green.

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7 hours ago, Juggernut said:

Nicely detailed efforts.  I'd like to point out , just as an FYI, that combat B-17's did not have ball turrets with external ammo cans.  If you're replicating a war bird , that's a different story.  Doesn't detract from your efforts one bit, just a little FYI in case you're interested. 

 

I also realize it's too late to change but production 17G's, with the exception of Douglas built ships (I just discovered) weren't painted interior green (and in those Douglas ships only the waist area appears to have been painted interior green).  

 

Again, not any ding on the build, on the contrary, its inspirational.  I'd never be able to pull off what you've done.  Just a little FYI in case you'd ever do this again on a kit. Also, if your attempt is to replicate a war bird then you're perfectly correct to paint the insides interior green.

 

Hi Juggernut

Thanks for your input on my build and I understand everything you have pointed out.

I have been building this model now for at least 6 years and have studied reams of information and seen thousands of photos of the B17 so I know exactly what your saying and where you're coming from.

With the variants  of the B17 and the different manufacturers one could quite easily get wrapped up in "what is right and what is wrong"....yes  "some" of the interiors were not painted interior green....some were ...for me it was always going to be a nightmare to get it all right from the offset .

So I decided 6 years ago to make this build my own interpretation of the B17G .I do realize that it is not 100% accurate  but just hope that it is pleasing to the on lookers eye...... 

BTW ..this interpretation of the B17G is loosely attached to the "Warbird " variety...and I just had to put those emergency ammunition cans in!......

Cheers

Fozzy

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Martin,

 

Totally on Awe of your EXEMPLARY work. :yahoo:

 

I like you are a perfectionist in detailed workmanship. :punk:

it is PHENOMENAL build so far and looking forward to more.

 

Thank you. 

 

:wow::thumbsup:    :clap2:    :bow:

 

 

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Afternoon guys!

 

This post will finish up all the interior detail I needed to do before closing both top and bottom halves of the fuselage and then I can proceed to finish off the detail on the exterior of the fuselage.

 

So what needed to be done was the ammunition belts from the emergency ammunition cans and the oxygen bottle for the gunner.

I'll start with the ammunition belts.....By using just paper and wire I'd thought I would show you how I went about this task ..photo by photo...

 

1. The first task was to cut 4 pieces of paper to the length/width of the belts....I used paper as it will bend like a real ammo belt...

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system.jpg

 

2. As you can see I then cut all 4 pieces..(you will see in the next few photos why I did this!)...

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(1).jpg

 

3. I then got some garden metal wire twine (I chose this as it looked the right scale for the rounds)...

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(2).jpg

 

4. This then had to be straightened using a flat piece of metal rolled across the top of a length of wire......

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(3).jpg

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(4).jpg

 

5. After measuring the width of the pieces of paper I then had to cut... (loads!!).... of pieces of wire which would replicate the rounds,....laborious task!...although I don't actually mind doing it!!

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(5).jpg

 

6. These were the super glued onto 2 of the 4 strips of paper....

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(6).jpg

 

7. Then the other strips of paper were glued over the top of the rounds  This is the time that I bent the paper to the shape I needed....

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(7).jpg

 

8. A couple strips of paper were cut and glued to both sides of the belts to make them look more authentic and I then painted them.....

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(8).jpg

 

So now all I had to do was super glue one end of the belts to the ammo cans and hook up the other ends on a couple of posts....(the reason for this is that because I have exposed the top of the ball turret I couldn't glue them to the entry point of the turret!)...here are a few photos of the task complete......

 

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making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(9a).jp

 

making_the_emergency_ammo_system_(9b).jp

 

The last task to do before closing the two halves was to scratch the oxygen tank for the gunner.

I have so far made loads of oxygen tanks for this project so I just made them the same way as before....and that is a sanded down piece of balsa wood with plastic strips glued to them!......here it is....

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit.jpg

 

I then glued the tank onto the post and made a couple of paper straps ....to replicate the securing straps!

 

So here is the finished Ball turret connection structure......

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(1).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(2).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(3).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(4).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(5).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(6).j

 

oxygen_bottle_and_the_complete_fit_(7).j

 

So now its at long last time to place the top to the bottom!!..ha ha!

 

about_to_attach_the_top_to_the_bottom.jp

 

I am now getting close to the end of the Radio room section of this B17G....the external detail will now have to be thought about before proceeding......so I'll see you all the next time around!

 

Thanks again for looking in

 

Fozzy

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Thanks guys!................

 

3 hours ago, CANicoll said:

Amazing work!  LOVE following along. Are we going to see this beauty at Telford this year?  Chris

 

Eventually I will try and get to Telford to show this but I really want to finish it first!.....I have one more section to go ....so it won't be this year Chris! ;)

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20 hours ago, fozzy said:

Thanks guys!................

 

 

Eventually I will try and get to Telford to show this but I really want to finish it first!.....I have one more section to go ....so it won't be this year Chris! ;)

 

Bring what you have and put it on the LSP table for everyone to gawk at.  Give 'em (and us!) a preview for next year!

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I love this build and its 447th BG subject, and am always amazed with your progress each time I see updates.

 

I have a suggestion that will make your task fabricating rounds so much simpler. Instead of cutting the wire to length and then laboriously attaching them side by side, use much longer pieces of wire (4+ times longer than you need) and then after they are glued side-to-side trim them to length and get 4 strips of bullets for essentially the effort of one.

 

I do that with stretched spue or wire to make my ammo belts. Can easily make 10 oversized pieces multiply out to 60 or 70 "bullets" depending on how long the pieces are when I start. Also, because I know I will be trimming I don't bother with exact lengths or getting them squared up at the ends before I glue them together.

 

Keep up the good work ... great work... outstanding work!!!

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