scvrobeson Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I just want to do a Belgian TF-104. Need to do a bunch of research to find the right one, I figure Daco will release decals for it Matt Kagemusha and Ivan Ivanovich 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, scvrobeson said: I just want to do a Belgian TF-104. Need to do a bunch of research to find the right one, I figure Daco will release decals for it Matt The Italeri kit will come with decals for Belgian TF-104G “FC11”. https://italeri.com/news_scheda.asp?idNews=754 Also, Daco already has a sheet out for Belgian 104s, with codes and stencils to allow almost any aircraft to be built. Can’t see them releasing another sheet. http://www.dacoproducts.com/KDCD64.php scvrobeson and LSP_K2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I'll have to get the DACO ones then, my plan is to do FC08, which is a scheme I had seen on a museum plane Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menelaos Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ivan Ivanovich said: Maybe another interisting fact about German Air Force (despite their USAF markings) 58th TFTW TF-104G's: Unlike their regular GAF siblings, the birds stationed at Luke were the only two seaters in German inventory that have never been retrofitted with the J79-MTU-J1K engine with the late nozzle, retaining the original J79-GE-11A turbojet (early nozzle). The entire fleet of operational GAF F-104G/TF-104G models was re-engined between December 1970 and November 1973. 58th TFTW TF-104G's were skipped for logistical reasons. J79-MTU-J1K: Ivan the HAF also flown some 104s with the 11 engine after they received many ex German birds with their MTU installed and many MTUs extra ....so ex German 104 means not automatically MTU engine on board Edited July 14, 2018 by Menelaos Ivan Ivanovich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ivanovich Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) In principle yes, but... I explicitly wrote about operational German AF F-104G/TF-104G, not about ex-GAF HAF Zippers. It's nitpicking, I know... Maybe I should have added " in operational/active GAF/Navy JG/JaboG/AG/MFG service". Operational Bundesluftwaffe/Marine F-104s after November 1973 -> J79-MTU-J1K. Except for those 58th TFTW birds. The -11A could be maintained, overhauled and repaired in the U.S. A -J1K would have been sent back to Germany for depot maintenance, etc. In the end, it's just a side note for those who want to build a German Starfighter in German service. Ex-GAF ΠA Zippers: I cannot say whether some of those were "re-retrofitted" with the -11A prior to delivery to Greece under the Defense Assistance Program while being processed at Gruppe 12 of Luftwaffenversorgungsregiment 1 in Erding or whether the -11A was retrofitted in Greece. In principle, it wasn't too much of a big deal to switch back from a -J1K back to a GE- or licence-built -11A. The -11A was more widely and readily available than the -J1K, the latter being "a German thing" born out of necessity in view of a really large Zipper fleet to be maintained. I'm soooo tempted to get one or two TF-104G kits, but my large stash of 1/48th Hasegawa Zippers says "nyet!" Edited July 15, 2018 by Ivan Ivanovich Luca, Menelaos, MikeC and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 10:39 PM, scvrobeson said: I just want to do a Belgian TF-104. Need to do a bunch of research to find the right one, I figure Daco will release decals for it Matt Daco also released a small sheet with just the essentials LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Open box with 26 photos here : SharkOwl Out2gtcha and Ivan Ivanovich 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbgtv8steve Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Hi All - just re-visiting this thread and noticed that in the picture posted by Out2gtcha on July 13, TF.104 63-3076 is carrying a "strange/different" 'pod/tank' under it's starboard wing - can anyone shed some light on what it was and how this could be modelled ? Best regards, Steve S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ivanovich Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) It's an SUU-21/A practice bomb dispenser in closed configuration. Videoaviation 1/32 SUU-21 Bomb Dispenser Open Edited July 20, 2018 by Ivan Ivanovich Out2gtcha, LSP_K2, Harold and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbgtv8steve Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Thanks chaps - I should have known! This certainly adds an interesting alternative to just hanging a set of auxiliary fuel tanks. Regards, Steve S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Special 100 Pages No.15 ''Sky Model'' Italian magazine about modelling the F-104 in all scales. PayPal accepted. Outside Europe contact them by email to order. SharkOwl Reference : http://www.aurigapublishing.it/libri_det.asp?ID=182 Edited July 27, 2018 by SharkOwl thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydesign Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Hundreds of (T) F-104G walk around photos can be seen at the IPMS.NL website (particularly Dutch RNethAF F-104): https://www.ipms.nl/walkarounds/walkaround-jets/1442-walkaround-lockheed-f104 SharkOwl and timvkampen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timvkampen Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 ...and finally after almost 30 years building a 1/32 scale 2-seat Zipper...to complement the 1/72 conversion (Esci) I made when I was 15!! A big thank you to Pieter Posthumus who designed a conversion process for the 1/32 2-seat Zipper in 1987!! First picture: Pieter Posthumus rendition (the canopies are made from a "spare" F-14 Tamiya canopy!; I did it the same for 1/72 scale from an Italeri F-14 canopy!). Second picture is my 1/72 scale 2-Zipper. Looking forward to Italeri's kit!! MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 11:39 PM, scvrobeson said: I just want to do a Belgian TF-104. Need to do a bunch of research to find the right one, I figure Daco will release decals for it Matt Try to find the Verlinden Lock On N°1. It was explicitly dedicated to the Belgian F-104. Hth Thierry timvkampen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkOwl Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Dutch Decal Just arrived, instruction not ready ! At the right : 1/32 KLU F-104G / TF-104G Tribute to Dutch Decal to produce 1/32 decal sheets ! SharkOwl timvkampen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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