1to1scale Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I found a great deal on on a Kinetic F-86F 40 NATO extended 6'3' wing, can I covert it to Korean War Sabre? I can't seem to find the short wing Sabre anywhere. I noticed in some sprue shots that showed it comes with tip extensions, if I leave them off, does that make a 30 Model? Edited December 24, 2017 by 1to1scale waltmert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fencer-1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) Kinetic model actually has short 6'3' wing without slats and corresponds to Korean War F-86F-30. F-86F-40 had extended wing with slats and also was deployed in the late Korean War stage. Italeri repack also has very nice colorful decals for two Korean War Sabres. Edited December 24, 2017 by Fencer-1 Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 This should help http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/180236-sabre-wings-demystified/ I think Aeromaster produced a decal sheet, which featured a Korean War short wing slatted F-86F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbird3a Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 The first F-86Fs left the factory with the narrow wing. Later the 6-3 was incorporated and also 6-3 kits were shipped to theatre for installation in the field. It was a simple change of the leading edge, it did not involve a new wing. There are pics of F-86Fs with narrow slatted wings and photos of F-86F-1s with the hard wing. Check your references. To answer the OP question, leaving off the extended tips only gets you a Canadair Sabre 6 wing, to get to a Korean era wing you would additionally glue up the slats, fill the panel line, and install the wing fence. Cheers, Tony MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hi 1to1scale, Jennings is correct For a Korean Sabre in 1/32 scale you have basically two choices. Swop the model for a 6-3 wing Sabre (Also a Kinetic model and kitted by Italeri as well) Or you can cut the 6-3 extension out of the wing like on this model (Hasegawa) Happy modeling Nick David66 and Darren Howie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis252 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 This always confuses me. So can the Italeri F-86F kit #2501 be built as a Korean War Sabre? Don't know what "wing" it has, but it doesn't have slats. Thanks. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Hi Chuck This always confuses me. So can the Italeri F-86F kit #2501 be built as a Korean War Sabre? Don't know what "wing" it has, but it doesn't have slats. Thanks. Chuck Yes it can, but check the references of the particular aircraft since both wide chord non-slatted and narrow chord slatted Sabres served in Korea. Edited December 25, 2017 by Cheetah11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis252 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Thanks, but what chord wing does this kit have, how do you tell? Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbird3a Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 No narrow chord wing in any box. That's the issue. It's either a 6-3 hard edge wing with Fence or a slatted 6-3 with optional wingtips. Tony David66 and wunwinglow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbird3a Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Thanks, but what chord wing does this kit have, how do you tell? Chuck On the real aircraft, the narrow chord wing leading edge stops before the ammo door. On the 6-3 wing, it covers the ammo door and there is a little triangle piece to remove to open the ammo door. Tony MikeC and David66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 So which kits have which wings? I have a Kinetic South Korean one, and an Italeri one, which appear to be identical mouldings. I don't have a Hasegawa kit.... David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah11 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) Hi wunwingglow So which kits have which wings? I have a Kinetic South Korean one, and an Italeri one, which appear to be identical mouldings. I don't have a Hasegawa kit.... In 1/32 Hasegawa : F-40 wing wide chord , slatted , and extended wing tips Kinetic F-30 : wide chord non slatted with wing fence Kinetic F-40 Nato Sabre : wide chord slatted with option of extended wing tips (these are not supposed to be on the example on the box art) Kitty Hawke F-86D : Narrow chord slatted wing Kitty Hawke F-86K : Same as F-40 wide chord , slatted , extended tips Italeri : Same as Kinetic F-30 Hope this helps Nick Edited December 26, 2017 by Cheetah11 MikeC, otis252 and David66 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Brilliant Nick, thats the info I think we were all hoping for! Much appreciated!! David66 and MikeC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 So, I just checked, one kit has a slatted wing with long and short wing tips as seperate parts, the other has no slats, fences and short wing tips moulded integrally. And there's me thinking they were identical kits!! You learn something every day, don't you!? Just gotta sort out which I need for an RAF one, I suppose. But my brain hurts right now.... MikeC and David66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 The Kinetic kit is labeled WP13201, F-86F-40 Sabre "ROKAF", no mention of NATO. That was what was confusing me. It is labeled correctly being a -40 version for the wings it has. Does this mean Kinetic did 3 boxings? Korean -30, Korean -40 and a NATO -40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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