Dave Williams Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10490885 Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis252 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Looks great! Lot more detail then I thought we'd get. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Can't believe that in 2017, we have a manufacturer who represents raised rivets (which are a prominent feature of the real thing) with hundreds of inverted “dimplesâ€. For me, it is a deal breaker. Might as well just go with raised panel lines. One step forward, one step back KH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) rivets would get most probably sanded away as you build the thing I hardly ever succeeded to protect them whenever sanding was required For that reason I personaly prefer engraved rivets because it gives me more flexibility I can leave them or fill them and use their location to replace them with transfer Raised rivets once sanded are gone, their location is gone as well, and much harder to redo On the little bird, I agree they need to be raised but I'd rather place them myself with archer rivets. That way I can ensure their line are not broken I'm glad to see a little bird. What we'll really need now is a crew and a good load of delta guys on the benches I have been thinking of that dio for ages Edited October 24, 2017 by red Dog otis252, Bravo52 and Out2gtcha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Can't believe that in 2017, we have a manufacturer who represents raised rivets (which are a prominent feature of the real thing) with hundreds of inverted “dimplesâ€. For me, it is a deal breaker. Might as well just go with raised panel lines. One step forward, one step back KH. I can sympathize with the sentiment, but name another company in 2017 that is doing all raised rivets? My point is that generally every manufacturer weighs the benefits and downfalls to each method, and 9/10 raised rivets just dont hit the mark. As RD pointed out there are many reasons companies dont go with them, and many reasons 95% of manufacturers went away from them, even on kits where the 1:1 actually had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 I know the 1/32 and 1/48 AH-64 kits have correct raised rivets, and in my experience they end up getting wiped out around the seams, and then when you replace them, you have to find or make replacements of about the same size (not too big and not too small, or else that will stick out much like leaving a blank spot where the seam was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On the little bird, I agree they need to be raised but I'd rather place them myself with archer rivets. That way I can ensure their line are not broken So it's easier to replace everything with Archer decals (which keep in mind means you probably need to fill in the recessed ones to get a good surface for the decals) vrs having to only replace a few that are lost to sanding? I'd rather KH just left the surface smooth in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Dog Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 As said above is that when you replace a few, you never have the same rivets. it creates spacing, widths and all kind of issues which to my eyes are very visible. With a smooth surface you have to do a lot of research and tracing to draw them right. With filled recessed ones, you still see them (putty vs plastic) and you can use that as a template to place the archer's rivets for instance Or if you're lazy, just wash the recessed rivets with a oil paint and call it done So in the end you get more flexibility with the way KH chosed to proceed. To me it is not a step backward. It's a good compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usmcski Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Good LORD, they packed a lot of detail in on this thing, I hope the fit is better than the ol' Dragon kit. Rivets or not, it's a must have for me. One thing I found odd, however; the first marking options show a 6-bladed main rotor and four-bladed tail rotor. I don't see any provisions for these in the sprues, only the 5-main and 2-tail version. I do see 6 main rotor blades, but not the associated head. Re: the crew, I wonder if the Reedoak figures for the H-60 would work. Thanks for sharing! Ski Edited October 24, 2017 by Usmcski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis252 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That's interesting about the rotor blades. But I've got the Black Ops Models AH-6J Conversion Kit which has the 6 blade rotor head and the 4 blade tail rotor. It also contains the under nose FLIR turret, which seems to be missing in the kit as well. I've got 1 on preorder from Freetime Hobbies and I'm going to up that to a second kit. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Looks great maybr a bit pricy for the size but if it build as nice has it looks im in for a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Howie Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 That is one very nice looking kit...sold. Really hoping we get a Vietnam Cobra with so much cool nose art around it would be brilliant. Vey nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHands Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Can't believe that in 2017, we have a manufacturer who represents raised rivets (which are a prominent feature of the real thing) with hundreds of inverted “dimplesâ€. For me, it is a deal breaker. Might as well just go with raised panel lines. One step forward, one step back KH. Those are to guide your drill for adding raised rivets! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tichy-Train-Group-8017-Scale-Rivet-Heads-pkg-200-020-05cm/381986832281?epid=659177513&hash=item58f0307f99:g:ceUAAOSw32lYtwfe Edited October 25, 2017 by TwoHands Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Glen has just sent me a set of test build photos, which I've published on the website: http://www.largescaleplanes.com/news/news.php?nid=216 Kev Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbert Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 OK, rivets are not raised, but they are very thin. Keep in mind it's not bigger than a 1/48 kit. Such rivets are OK to me cheers Norbert Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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