Camel builds or lack thereof..........

[LSP_K2]

I think Eric nailed it. Many seem to squawk "I want it and I want it now", only to get the kit and throw it onto the shelf.

[MikeMaben]

Well sure, alotta kits I gotta have now are on the shelf.

With WNW you gotta get one quick before they're gone forever.

They'll show up someday.

[Juggernut]

I got one but have nowhere to build it.  Damned apartment living sucks.

[Rick Griewski]

Love the air plane. Worked on other things while the new WNW business model settled out. . I placed my order in a calm manner. Received my kits in a timely manner. Noticed that I have a cool German SAM WW2 on my bench, two very aggressive looking Pegasus dinosaurs looking at me from my book shelf wanting a paint job, a Me-410, Ta-152 and a Kingfisher kit. And a Rutman SBD. I put the Camel kits on my shelf while I finish 250 dollars worth of models. The dinosaurs have captured my imagination and time for the last 2 weeks or so. Life is good.

 

Rick

[DonH]

Mine is still in the rift between this world and Weta World. No idea when it will arrive. At the speed I build, it will sit on the shelf for a while, maybe have its plastic fondled a couple of times.

[MikeMaben]

 Email from yesterday...

We are pleased to announce that our long awaited 1/32 scale Sopwith Camel has begun shipping to distributors and will be available from your preferred stockist as soon as their shipment arrives.
 
The iconic Sopwith Camel is probably the most famous of all First World War aircraft, if not by sight, then by name. The Sopwith F.1 Camel, initially powered by the 130hp Clerget engine, started arriving at front line RFC (Royal Flying Corps) & RNAS (Royal Naval Air Service) squadrons from the middle of 1917 and quickly helped wrest air superiority back from the German Albatros fighters. Nine different manufacturers built around 5500 Sopwith Camels which were powered by a variety of engines. The RNAS preferred the 150hp AR.1 (Admiralty Rotary 1), later renamed the BR.1 (Bentley Rotary 1) and the RFC preferred the 110hp Le Rhône 9J and, when they became available, the improved 140hp Clerget 9Bf while the USAS preferred the 160hp Gnome 9N Monosoupape engine.
 
For more historical information about Sopwith aircraft we suggest signing up for the “100 years ago in Kingston aviation†weekly newsletter;
www.kingstonaviation.org/sign-up-for-our-newsletter.html
 
Previous compiled newsletters covering 1913 to 1917;
www.kingstonaviation.org/100-years-ago.html
 
Note that Wingnut Wings is not associated with Kingston Aviation but we do enjoy reading these newsletters. 
 
32070      1/32         Sopwith F.1 Camel “BR.1†                                   MSRP US$ 79 (+ local taxes etc)
32070 includes common Sopwith Camel sprues A, C & D, Sopwith F.1 Camel sprue B, 150hp Bentley BR.1 engine sprue E and markings for American, Australian, British, Canadian, New Zealand, and Polish pilots and/or squadrons.
 
-164 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-16 part highly detailed 150hp Bentley BR.1 engine.
-Optional fuselage halves with alternative lacing details, windscreens, cut down cockpit decking, common or Bentley style engine cowlings, small & large cut out top wing centre sections, early and late undercarriage, propellers, 20lb Cooper bombs & carrier.
-10 photo-etched metal detail parts.
-24 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-High quality Cartograf decals for 5 aircraft;
 
A - Sopwith F.1 Camel B6390 “Black Mariaâ€, R Collishaw (60 victories), Seaplane Defence Squadron RNAS, December 1917. 
B - Sopwith F.1 Camel B7190 “Donner-Wetter!â€, WGR Hinchliffe (6 victories), “C†Flight 10(N) Sqn RNAS, March 1918.       
C - Sopwith F.1 Camel B7270, AR Brown (10 victories – including Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron), 209 Sqn RAF, April 1918.    
D - Sopwith F.1 Camel B7275 “Pâ€, HF Beamish (11 victories), RA Little (47 victories), E Pierce (9 victories) & R Sykes (6 victories), “C†Flight 3(N) Sqn RNAS & 203 Sqn RAF, March - April 1918.  
E - Sopwith F.1 Camel F5234, KM Murray, 7^th Air Escadrille (Kościuszko Squadron), Poland, October 1920
 
32071      1/32         Sopwith F.1 Camel “LeRhone†          MSRP US$ 79 (+ local taxes etc)
32071 includes common Sopwith Camel sprues A, C & D, Sopwith F.1 Camel sprue B, 110hp LeRhone 9J engine sprue E and markings for American, British and Canadian pilots and/or squadrons.
 
-165 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-17 part highly detailed 110hp LeRhone 9J engine.
-Optional cut down cockpit decking, windscreens, Holt lights and flares, LeRhone style engine cowling, small & large cut out top wing centre sections, 20lb Cooper bombs & carrier.
-10 photo-etched metal detail parts.
-24 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-High quality Cartograf decals for 5 aircraft;
 
A - Sopwith F.1 Camel B5417 “11â€, GAC Manley, “B†Flight 54 Sqn RFC, February 1918. 
B - Sopwith F.1 Camel B5423 “6â€, FM Ohrt, “A†Flight 54 Sqn RFC, January 1918.  
C - Sopwith F.1 Camel C1555 “Sudsâ€, FL Luxmoore (3 victories) & SP Gamon, 78(HD) Sqn RFC, January-February 1918.   
D - Sopwith F.1 Camel F2137 “Uâ€, DR MacLaren (54 victories), “C†Flight 46 Sqn RAF, September-October 1918.    
E - Sopwith F.1 Camel F2141 “Lâ€, H Burdick (8 victories), “B†Flight 17^th Aero Sqn USAS, August-October 1918.  
 
32072      1/32         Sopwith F.1 Camel “USAS†                                  MSRP US$ 79 (+ local taxes etc)
32072 includes common Sopwith Camel sprues A, C & D, Sopwith F.1 Camel sprue B, 160hp Gnome 9N Monosoupape and 130-140hp Clerget 9B/9Bf engine E sprues and markings for American pilots and squadrons.
 
-185 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-18 part highly detailed 130-140hp Clerget 9B/9Bf engine.
-19 part highly detailed 160hp Gnome 9N engine.
-Optional fuselage halves with alternative lacing details, Clerget & Gnome engines & cowlings, air induction pipes, cut down cockpit decking, Holt flares, small & large cut out top wing centre sections, 20lb Cooper bombs & carrier.
-10 photo-etched metal detail parts.
-24 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-High quality Cartograf decals for 6 aircraft;
 
A - Sopwith F.1 Camel D8245 “Bâ€, FE Kindley, “A†Flight 148^th Aero Sqn USAS, August 1918 (12 victories). 
B - Sopwith F.1 Camel D8250 “Oâ€, EW Springs, “B†Flight 148^th Aero Sqn USAS, August 1918 (16 victories). 
C - Sopwith F.1 Camel “4â€, HR Clay Jr, “A†Flight 41^st Aero Sqn USAS, late 1918 to early 1919 (8 victories).   
D - Sopwith F.1 Camel “18â€, JB Hickman, “C†Flight 41^st Aero Sqn USAS, early 1919. 
E - Sopwith F.1 Camel F1430 “13â€, EM Kelton, “A†Flight 185^th Aero Sqn USAS, October 1918 (1? victory).
F - Sopwith F.1 Camel F1471 “12â€, 185th Aero Sqn USAS, March 1919. 
 
32074      1/32         Sopwith F.1 Camel “Clerget†                               MSRP US$ 79 (+ local taxes etc)
32074 includes common Sopwith Camel sprues A, C & D, Sopwith F.1 Camel sprue B and 130-140hp Clerget 9B/9Bf engine sprue E and markings for Australian, British, Canadian, New Zealand and South African pilots and/or squadrons.
 
-166 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-18 part highly detailed 130-140hp Clerget 9B/9Bf engine.
-Optional fuselage halves with alternative lacing details, windscreens, cut down cockpit decking, early and late undercarriage, propellers, 20lb Cooper bombs & carrier.
-10 photo-etched metal detail parts.
-24 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-High quality Cartograf decals for 6 aircraft;
 
A -Sopwith F.1 Camel B3834 “Wonga Bongaâ€, RH Daly (7 victories) & AF Brandon (1 victory), Manston War Flight RNAS, July-August 1917. 
B - Sopwith F.1 Camel B3889 “B 1â€, CF Collett (11 victories), B Flight 70 Sqn RFC, August 1917.       
C - Sopwith F.1 Camel B3893, AR Brown (10 victories), 9(N) Sqn RNAS, September-October 1917.   
D - Sopwith F.1 Camel B6289, HL Nelson (1 victory), WM Alexander (23 victories), A Flight 10(N) Sqn RNAS, January 1918.    
E - Sopwith F.1 Camel B6313, WG Barker (50 victories), 139 Sqn RAF, late July 1918.  
F - Sopwith F.1 Camel B7406, HG Watson (14 victories), C Flight 4 Sqn AFC, March 1918.    
 
32076      1/32         Sopwith 2F.1 Camel “Ship's Camel†                                  MSRP US$ 79 (+ local taxes etc)
32076 includes common Sopwith Camel sprues A, C & D, Sopwith 2F.1 Camel sprue B and 1 150hp Bentley BR.1 engine sprue E and markings for American, Australian, British and New Zealand pilots and/or ships. 
 
-170 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-16 part highly detailed 150hp Bentley Br.1 engine.
-Features Sopwith 2F.1 “Ship's Camel†fuselage halves, shorter wingspan, single Vickers and Lewis gun armament. 
-Optional wheels, propellers and bomb carrier.
-7 photo-etched metal detail parts.
-24 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-High quality Cartograf decals for 5 aircraft;
 
A - Sopwith 2F.1 Camel N6602, HMS Furious, April 1918.
B - Sopwith 2F.1 Camel N6764, HMS Lion, April to June 1918.
C - Sopwith 2F.1 Camel N6812, SD Culley (1 victory), Felixstowe, 5 August 1918.   
D - Sopwith 2F.1 Camel N6822, HMAS Sydney, July to October 1918
E - Sopwith 2F.1 Camel N6823, S Dawson, HMS Furious, 17 to 19 July 1918.
 
32803      1/32         Sopwith F.1 Camel & LVG C.VI “The Duellists†                             MSRP US$ 189 (+ local taxes etc)
Our 3^rd release in “The Duellists†series, includes parts to build 2 (two) models (1x Sopwith F.1 Camel & 1x LVG C.VI) and markings for Australian and German aircraft which met in combat.
 
-427 high quality injection moulded plastic parts.
-18 part highly detailed 130-140hp Clerget 9B/9Bf engine.
-21 part 220hp Benz Bz.IV engine.
-Sopwith F.1 Camel sprues are identical to 32074 Sopwith F.1 Camel “Clergetâ€.
-LVG C.VI sprues are similar to 32002 LVG C.VI which sold out in October 2012.
-Includes optional diorama accessories.
-15 photo-etched metal detail parts including LMG 08/15 “Spandau†cooling jacket. 
-32 page fully illustrated instruction manual.
-4 high quality Cartograf decal sheets including 4 colour lozenge, rib tapes and markings for 3 aircraft;
 
A = Sopwith F.1 Camel E7190, HN Kerr (1 shared victory), B Flight 4 Sqn AFC, 9 October 1918.             
B = Sopwith F.1 Camel E7241, VH Thornton (2 victories, 1 shared), B Flight 4 Sqn AFC, 9 October 1918.
C = LVG C.VI 7243/18, Sgt. Greyer & Lt. Köhnke, Flieger Abteilung 13, 9 October 1918.  
 
All available Wingnut Wings models and accessories are shown on our website www.wingnutwings.com including new 32067 Fokker D.VII (Fok) “Early†expected to be released in May 2017.
 
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions please let me know. 
 
Regards
 
 
Richard Alexander
richard@wingnutwings.com

 
 
Wingnut Wings Ltd, PO Box 15-319, Miramar, Wellington 6022, New Zealand.

Edited March 3, 2017 by MikeMaben

[geedubelyer]

You raise an interesting question Wolf.

I suspect that the arrival of folk's kits may be the most probable reason. The UK and European allocation seems to have hitched a ride on a slow boat from China that's going the longest way around the globe.

 

Fairly sure the number of on-line builds will escalate in due course. Although not everyone's cup of tea, the Camel is generally a popular aeroplane with a great many schemes on offer.

 

I am very much looking forward to seeing how yours turns out.

[Chek]

As someone still too intimidated to do any more than look over my WnW Bristol F2b, I've ordered a BR1 Camel too.

I'm not expecting to tackle it any faster than its two-seater companion, but it won't be available for ever and the second hand/pre-owned market hasn't favoured the buyer when it comes to WnW kits. And I'm confident that as with the rest of their range, the WnW Camel will be unsurpassed during my lifetime.

 

Of course, better modellers than I could no doubt produce a gem through scratch building, or via the Academy Camel at a quarter of the price.

But, at least in my own mind, the WnW version will give me the best possible basis on which to build.

[Bomber_County]

Well observed Wolf also liked BradG's comment on scalpers...........

[geedubelyer]

Hi Chek,

I hope you dive in and feel the joy of building a modern, state of the art model kit that the WNW items appear to be. Other modellers have drawn comparisons with Tamiya and there can be no higher endorsement than that.

 

Having spent time adding extra detail to a Hobbycraft Camel in the past I'm very much looking foward to enjoying my first WNW kit when it arrives.

 

Cheers.

[Chek]

Thanks Guy, I appreciate the encouragement.

 

I generally didn't used to fear rigging, my last WWI project being the old FROG Vimy with hand carved cocktail stick struts for rigidity and stretched sprue wires, But in the bigger scale, I feel flat section flying wires where required and turnbuckle terminals of all rigging is mandatory.

 

I've checked out some superb builds of various bipes, but for whatever reason, just haven't finalised the methods used in my head yet sufficiently to proceed. I'm sure the methodology will all fall into place at some point and I'll get started.

 

As you say, they really are state of the art kits, and no doubt will feature on LSP build threads in due course..

Edited March 4, 2017 by Chek

[leitch]

Luckily the Sopwith Camel has no Turnbuckles as such , and WNW wings tell you so in the rigging diagram.

 

Andy

[Chek]

Luckily the Sopwith Camel has no Turnbuckles as such , and WNW wings tell you so in the rigging diagram.

 

Andy

 

Cheers, Andy! That would be a relief.

 

But photos show a different story.

 

 

 

 

Plus, how could a tensioning system not have built in adjustment?

Edited March 5, 2017 by Chek

[LSP_K2]

Luckily the Sopwith Camel has no Turnbuckles as such , and WNW wings tell you so in the rigging diagram.

 

Andy

 

Yep, the datafile on the Camel, indicates the same thing; no turnbuckles.

[Chek]

Yep, the datafile on the Camel, indicates the same thing; no turnbuckles.

 

Well, that doesn't seem to be the case regarding the restored Camels seen in post #28.

 

So are those restorations in error? Or am I confusing the term 'turnbuckle' with some other type of inline tensioning fitting used?