Deadpool Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 So, I'm kinda hating my Revell F-4E and all it's inaccuracies, especially knowing that there is a far better Tamiya model out there. My question pertains to turning a Tamiya F-4E into a slatted more modern version, namely an AUP. Apart from the slatted wings and obvious IP enhancements, what other obvious external diffs would there be? I'm not talking small panels or hardly visible air vents, but rather large obvious differences that would differentiate the two variants. If this requires a major response, please let me know of a source which might already list these. As an additional question, which slatted wing set would you recommend for a Tamiya kit? Many TIA. David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero77 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Reinforcement belly strap? Possibly TISEO and various other antennas or sensors? You can look at GT resin parts and conversion. There is a complete conversion set for a modern F-4E. David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpool Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hellenic AF AUP (Peace Icarus 2000) type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomdriver Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I think he What user are you talking about? They're all different. he's talking about Hellenic APU.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain11 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 hi , Hellenic ( peace icarus..) F4E have different IP (front and rear) from the " standard versions " , and of course some antennas added here and there , especially in front of the wind screen , you should need the volume 1 " Phantom under the skin" which covers the Greek Phantom http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=64484 Alain David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David66 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Can't help with the I.P and detail questions, but for the major airframe corrections/updates, I'd go with GT resin seamless intakes, exhausts, belly strap and slatted wing to convert the Tamiya kit. logan181 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpool Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Thanks chaps. I have Ioannis' Phantom UtS book but wondering if I missed anything. Edited January 29, 2017 by Deadpool David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) You might be best served by the hoped-for Tan Model release. They've lidar'd a Phantom so it's in progress, but when it's due is anyone's guess. Tony Edited January 29, 2017 by Tony T David66 and Deadpool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael931080 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 One thing I have to point out is that everyone always wants to put this "Belly Strap" on the F-4 for some strange reason. Yes it was there in the early version of the E, J, N and some of the S versions as well. I must stress here I have crawled under a few, no quite a few later model E Phantoms to see for myself this ongoing question. The result, no belly strap. The area in question when looked at did show a reworked and strengthened wing box with multiple riveting patterns in it, but no strap. I did speak with several Crew Chief's about this area and they confirm that this was indeed the case when the F-4E's that went back to Depot maintenance that this was addressed as was the original leading edge "hard slats" to the later moveable and positionable leading edge slats. HTH David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 This has been covered a number of times before. IIRC 71-237 and up had the beefier lower torque box and no strap - there is a definite lip at the rear edge of the thicker box skin. The strap was purely for F-4E slat retrofit jets and was also later used on Navy/Marines and RAF hard wings. The Greek jets are all relatively late build F-4Es. Tony David66 and Michael931080 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomdriver Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 assuming you are referring to RAF "J" 's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) assuming you are referring to RAF "J" 's? Stefan Petersen image reproduced for educational fair use Tony edited to add photo credit Edited January 30, 2017 by Tony T David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Except that's not a 74 Sq J , but a full FGR-1 - Come on HK... David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomdriver Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Stefan Petersen image reproduced for educational fair use Tony edited to add photo credit that's no J... David66 and Michael931080 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 that's no J... Exactly. Read my original statement. Tony David66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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