ninjrk Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 My wonderful wife bought me the Tamiya early Zero and I would love to display it with a Ki-43 but it seems all of the kits are of the Ki-43-II and not the earlier version. Did anyone ever make a conversion kit or some such? I'm not convinced that I want to make the time to backdate the Hasegawa kit; after a bunch of work redoing a big resin kit I'd kind of like to do a couple OOB builds to recharge! Thanks, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjrk Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 My wonderful wife bought me the Tamiya early Zero and I would love to display it with a Ki-43 but it seems all of the kits are of the Ki-43-II and not the earlier version. Did anyone ever make a conversion kit or some such? I'm not convinced that I want to make the time to backdate the Hasegawa kit; after a bunch of work redoing a big resin kit I'd kind of like to do a couple OOB builds to recharge! Thanks, Matt Apologies, just realized the topic title got clipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Hi, I know somebody released or at least announced a conversion set. However, I cannot remember who did and I am not sure the information is still valid. Hopefully, others will have a better memory...! T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 As far as I'm aware, Matt, there's nothing available. Both the available kits are old, with the Revell one being hard to find as well. Neither got any real love from the aftermarket, even though the Hasegawa kit has been re-released several times, and can be readily found. There might be a set of exhausts somewhere, and maybe a vac canopy, but certainly no conversion that I've heard of. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong, however! Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Found it! http://modelingmadness.com/scott/detailsets/umi/umi1.htm Unfortunately, I guess only a few sets were produced before UMI vanished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Eduard did a PE set for the Hasegawa kit. It's OOP, but you can still find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Texan Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I keep hoping Mr. Roy Sutherland, of Barracuda, will produce a conversion set. I'd jump on it with both feet! I'd by two right off the bat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I have one of those UMI sets. Maybe we should get Harold to clean it up and cast some new parts along with some other upgrades for the kit? If nothing else, maybe the new parts would mean Hasegawa would release a new-tool version (due to Murphy's Law of course.) I am assuming copyright laws wouldn't apply as UMI is no more, the molds and all his other modeling stuff gone. Rick Griewski, LSP_Paul, Harold and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee White Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I have one of those UMI sets. Maybe we should get Harold to clean it up and cast some new parts along with some other upgrades for the kit? If nothing else, maybe the new parts would mean Hasegawa would release a new-tool version (due to Murphy's Law of course.) I am assuming copyright laws wouldn't apply as UMI is no more, the molds and all his other modeling stuff gone. That's a good point- I didn't know Dave, but his posts suggested that he was a heck of a nice guy, and would probably would have wanted his creation to have lived on in one form or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Copyright would still apply, technically (it's death + 70 years IIRC, depending on jurisdiction), but from a practical point-of-view, there's probably no one around who'd care (or is able) to enforce it. Kev Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Wonder if his widow, assuming he was married, would be in line for some kind of royalty payment if new molds were made from his work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I think if they were copied without modification, and then sold that way, quite possibly so. But if they were used as the basis for a heavily modified or extended set, then possibly not. For practical purposes, I really don't think it matters much in this specific case, but we'd probably need an IP lawyer to cut through the grey areas for a definitive answer on this one. Kev Harold and Big Texan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 The -I Oscar wants a new cowl, flat top canopy, 2 blade prop, and the Eduard PE set, which actually only really needs the looms to hold the oil cooler lines, which sit in front of the engine; the round blobby thing in the Hase kit. Dave from UMI died some years ago, so if a set of his is around, it would be a good jumping off point. There are of course some other subtlties to the plane, but these are the biggies as I remember them. Big Texan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Stephen knew him better than anyone, so he may know who his estate went to. It did not go to Umi, they were never married as far as I know, and if I recall correctly, was thought to have gone back to her home country. I think that came from Stephen. I also think Stephen tried to find out what happened to Dave's masters and molds went and got nowhere. I will look for his set when I get back home this weekend. I know there was a new cowl, I think a prop, but not sure about the canopy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Paul Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 If I recall correctly, US Copyright says as long as the product is at least 10% significantly different ( modified from a similar product and or different in base material ) then it is considered a new product. Resin for modeling purposes has changed significantly since the old set was produced, and the sets as they are clearly would need to be modified at least 10%. Asking (AMS) Harold to produce what would be essentially a new product isn't far fetched, you just have to give him enough time and beer, I'll buy the beer. Paul Harold and Big Texan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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