Guest Peterpools Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Hi Chuck Absolutely IAF and I'm also looking at the cammo scheme as I plan on using the Isracast conversion for the Altar 9C engine, which has a different exhaust then the 9b versions. One thing we need to be careful of is the colors for the cammo scheme changed in the 1980's, especially the green. When I built my 48th Kfir, I used the post 1980 colors, which was from the MIG set but would need to be modified for the earlier cammo colors. Peter Edited April 15, 2016 by Peterpools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 I was thinking of trying my hand at scratch building (yah I know) an Atar 9C can, but I may do an earlier camo'ed IAF mirage that would have still used a 9B engine. I'm still not sure about all that. Your Kfir looks sweet by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peterpools Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Thanks Chuck Isracast has the conversion and I bought it along with their Mk 4 seat and decals. The instructions are clear but I think it conversion also corrects the exhaust area as well. I haven't looked in the box except for the day it arrived a while back Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 I saw there stuff and it looks good, but I have been playing around with CAD and photo etching, so this might be a good chance for me to apply it with this build. Not making any promises, but we'll see once I get building. I think the first thing I need to do is figure out what colours I need and place my order for some more mr Paint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 From what I've found online, the earlier IAF three colour scheme uses the following colours: Green FS 34258 Tan FS 30219 Sand FS 33531 Pale Blue FS 35622 Do these colours sounds right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 It looks like model master are the only ones to offer the green (FS 34258) for the earlier IAF schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 After a bit more research, it seems that the earlier/darker IAF green could also be FS 34227. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 About the only book I have that's specific to the Israeli Mirage III is this AD Graphics volume, but there's only one 'pit shot, and it's not the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 Is the pit pretty much all flat back (except for a few details)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hi Dave Thank you for the link but from what I have been finding out, Israeli Mirage cockpits were unique, in what ways, I have no idea. I'm going to use the same philosophy as Chuck and just take the middle road. Peter First I've heard of that. The photo of an IAF Mirage cockpit in the Osprey book shows a standard IIIC instrument panel, almost identical to photos I've seen of a French Mirage. The only mods I'm aware of are the addition of some switches to lock the radar modes as a result of combat experience, and the later removal of the radar, which simply meant the scope was removed. Other than the 9C engine, the IAF IIICs received little upgrading AFAIK. I don't think Neshers got much either. Kfirs were a completely different animals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 Thanks Dave for the insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 After a bit more research, it seems that the earlier/darker IAF green could also be FS 34227. Any thoughts on this? According to the Isradecal instructions, the green is 34227. The colors are listed as 35622, 33531, 34227, and 30219. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 Thanks for the confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff T Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Hi Chuck Absolutely IAF and I'm also looking at the cammo scheme as I plan on using the Isracast conversion for the Altar 9C engine, which has a different exhaust then the 9b versions. One thing we need to be careful of is the colors for the cammo scheme changed in the 1980's, especially the green. When I built my 48th Kfir, I used the post 1980 colors, which was from the MIG set but would need to be modified for the earlier cammo colors. Peter Cant add any info, but just wanted to say that is a superb build Pete!... Beautifully done! Cheer's, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckT Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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