Guest Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 So, where do the Gforce ones come in?Separate AM?....Harv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyZeit Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not sure harv, but these AM Gear were ordered right from Volks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peterpools Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Justin Thanks for the info and photo, I was just about to upload the one you sent me. Judging form therphotos and description, the kit's gear look so much better and the way to go. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Strange. That AM set of gear doesn't look like mine. The MLG's I got have the same one-piece set as the kit gear, only the nose gear is two piece so you can swivel it. Note the AM gear is a brassier color than the main gear. The extra detail is sharper than what you show on yours, too. They must have changed providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Howie Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Agree I have three sets and they are all brass. I bought all three sets of mine in Japan immediately after release. No complaints here but looks like the later ones are SAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 IIRC, I got mine direct from Ernie at Nats in Colorado, close to when it was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peterpools Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'll be checking my kit and from what comes with the kit, that should be fine. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Boillot Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I have some G-Factor sets (not for the 219, though) and they all look like the last pic (cast bronze alloy) and not like FunkyZeit's side-by-side ... Strange indeed Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 So, where do the Gforce ones come in?Separate AM?....Harv my kit and aftermarket sets look exactly like Funkyzeit's pictures the G-Factor (not G-Force ) are the ones on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 I guess Ernie's under contract and can't sell these direct? If he can, just buy from him. The metal ones in my kit are solid steel. They look and feel great, but I think the plastic ones will be just as good. kind of missing the point about my initial post / the thread: i do not have an issue with the metal ones *that come with the kit*; my issue is with the (supposed) upgrade set hope that clarifies things Wurzacher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Crosby Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Hi Guys, Having bought a UHU at the Z-M stand at Telford, I just went up to the stash and had a look see. The add-ons are not by G-Factor but manufactured by MDC. VERY soft white metal, lots of pieces and some marginal detail improvements, such as some weld seams and raised data plates. But still very soft metal and this kit is going to be one heavy mother when it's assembled. I mean the kit box is heavy, full of plastic and about a thimble of air space! Probably the cheapest kit per Kilo you've ever bought! The kit parts are (shoot me if I'm wrong) white bronze or a very hard version of white metal. Certainly not steel as someone else has said earlier. They don't have the detail but are cleanly cast and twice the rigidity of the add-ons. The welds and data plates can be added fairly easily. All axles are fixed, all oleos are integral, so no height adjustment or steering nose wheel. Live with it! I think I wasted my money on that particular upgrade. But the rest of the stuff, the resin tyres, metal gun barrels, etc, plus the simply stunning basic kit, all money well spent. And as I got the kit at Show Price, I'm well happy. Stick with the metal in the kit. Regards, Bruce Crosby FunkyZeit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzacher Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bruce, what makes you think your upgrade set has been done by MDC? Can you provide a scan of the instruction leaflet showing this? I wonder if ZM at some point switched from G-Factor to another manufacturer of this upgrade set?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Crosby Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Hi Thomas, It's not what I think, it's what is written on the little box, actually on the folded paper instructions that line the clear plastic box. All Z-M accessories have a credit panel, generally with a small logo too if that manufacturer has one. The MDC name and Logo is there. The guns are by Masters of Poland. The lovely tires don't have a manufacturer in our alphabet, just Japanese characters, so I'm guessing they may be in house products. Very nice too. The etched parts are all Eduard. By comparison, the white bronze undercarriage legs for my Ta-152's have the G-Factor name, the guns are again by MDC. Etched parts by Eduard. I've always been impressed with Z-M stuff and their team are always a pleasure to talk to at Telford. However, the UHU undercarriage isn't up to their usual standard, I'll use the kit metal ones with some modifications. They won't take long at all to clean up. Regards, Bruce Crosby Wurzacher and Vandy 1 VX 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peterpools Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bruce, the saga continues - thank you for the new information. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Then they definitely have changed vendors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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