Learstang Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 She should look beautiful once you've painted her - I look forward to that! Regards, Jason LSP_K2 and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Looking forward to seeing some paint going on. Cheers Dennis Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amurray Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Thank you again for the positive feedback! Well, I have completed the tiny-bits and brass-pinned them for painting and attachment after the whole thing is painted up. Last bits of etch applied to the front cowlings and the canopy all attached. There are several more etched "bands" that encircle the front fuselage to add but since they are done in nickel I am going to try to attach those after painting since they should remain a bright-ish bare metal color. Hard to believe but I think I am ready to start I like the way you pin ALL small parts. I've started experimenting a little with it on a hit or miss basis but I need to consistently do all the small parts. I've always had trouble with small parts and pinning them will solve 98% of those problems. Great job! mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 At my plodding super slow speed we have achieved a start some paint work.... mywifehatesmodels, Learstang, Uncarina and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 At my plodding super slow speed we have achieved a start some paint work.... Color!!! Love it. I have this one in the stash, and am really looking forward to the end results, as I have been taking notes! clarkis, ShotMagnet, mywifehatesmodels and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66misos Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Hi Petrov27, AFAIK you have chosen Zelionkin's plane. I do not see, whether you installed also bomb racks on the underwing as cam be seen on the photo bellow: May be you will find another usefull info in this thread http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=4i1u23g6nmodt9nddn7qrqjil6&topic=2079.0 about Dolgushin's La-7. They both are from the 165 iap, both planes/camouflages shared a number of the common features. Regards, 66misos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Hi 66misos, Yes I still plan on doing the Zelionkin plane - thank you for the references and no I had not been aware of bomb racks. Have you seen a clearer reference as to what those would look like? Not sure my skills are such to scratch build them or no. Regarding Zelonkin's plane, what are your thoughts on this profile below that I found online? Does it seem likely accurate to you? I was trying to follow it pretty closely so far as it seemed pretty good: LSP_Paul, MikeMaben, reconspit and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero77 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 That red is just gorgeous ! Which paint is it? mpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) That red is just gorgeous ! Which paint is it? Thx - it is Gunze Aqueous Gloss Red thinned with Mr Color leveling thinners. Went on great, I am finding that it is really easy to fingerprint though - I am giving it some days to hopefully harden up before masking to do the camo colors.... Edited June 21, 2016 by petrov27 Uncarina and mpk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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amurray Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 You have chosen a beautiful paint scheme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66misos Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Hi 66misos, Yes I still plan on doing the Zelionkin plane - thank you for the references and no I had not been aware of bomb racks. Have you seen a clearer reference as to what those would look like? Not sure my skills are such to scratch build them or no. Regarding Zelonkin's plane, what are your thoughts on this profile below that I found online? Does it seem likely accurate to you? I was trying to follow it pretty closely so far as it seemed pretty good: Hi Petrov27, here are some photos and drawing of the La-5x/La-7 bomb racks, taken from scalemodels.ru: And some info from http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=2079.0 regarding camo & marking of Dolgushin's La-7, applicable also for Zelionkin plane: ...Red engine cowling and spinner were introduced by Lieutenant-General A.S. Osipenko in July 1944 before the Bobruisk Operation as the recogniotion marks of the Air Corps. At the same time identification marks of the regiments were accepted. For the 156 iap they were alternating horizontal stripes on the tail fin and rudder - three red and three white...Belts tightening engine cowling - unpainted steel. Red stars with the white outline on the standard positions. (Board) Number ... white with no border.... Yellow letter "E" on the tail - the honorary name of the 156th Regiment "Elbingsky." - here on Dolgushin's plane: Western (Latin) "E" is in Cyrillic either "Ð" or "E" Western (Latin) "Z" is in Cyrillic "З", like our digit 3 The unit full name was "156-й иÑтребительный ÐльбингÑкий ордена Суворова авиационный полк" e.g. "156th Elbingskij Air Fighter Regiment of the Suvorov Order". So if the photo does not clearly show something else, I would rather paint there yellow "Ð" or mirrored "E" on the tail, but not "З". Red star on the tail is smaller than star on the fuselage (similarly to Dolgushin's plane): Circular La-7 logo in the tail red cap: Regarding camouflage colors, they were pretty dark. Dark grey AMT-12 was almost like bleached black (it replaced black from previous black-green camo)... So do not overdo "scale effect". Nice discussion and paint chips are at http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234933995-vvs-colours-in-the-great-patriotic-war/page-5 Hope it helps. Regards, 66misos Edited June 22, 2016 by 66misos Learstang, Uncarina and mpk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hi 66misos - that is great information - thank you! I will see what I can do about adding bomb racks.... You mention: Red stars with the white outline on the standard positions. Just a white outline on the stars with no narrow red outline outside of that? Except on the tail star? The one pic of the aircraft I cannot make out that narrow red outline on the fuselage star, but most drawings/profiles show all of the stars on La-7 to have narrow red outline outside of the thicker white.... Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66misos Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hi Patrick, Thick white and thin red outline on the red stars were standad given by order since summer 1943. But regarding this particular Zelionkin plane there seems to be exception -thin red outline on the fuselage star is neither visible on the photo nor it is on the profile above. So in this case I would go without thin red outline on the fuselage star. And that white outline looks a bit thicker than standard. Regards, 66misos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thanks again 66misos - I will go with no border on the fuselage stars One final question - do you have any thoughts on the La-7 logos for the engine cowl and tail cap? Not sure what color the logo is - the below is about the best picture I have found - if you had seen a larger better quality picture of the logo anywhere? I had thought maybe the logo was a simple white circle with the La-7 text inside also in white based on a museum example I have pics of, but the pic below the logo does not look white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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