Chek Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Metal ailerons were introduced towards the end of 1940 due to combat reports of poor hi-speed handling, which was traced to the 'ballooning' of the fabric covered type at speed inhibiting their efficiency. http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/concise-guide-to-spitfire-wing-types.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hi Barry; You might already have this covered, but Edgar once told me that Battle of Britain Spits would almost certainly have the metal seat fitted as opposed to the composite seat...so it will need to be painted green not the reddish brown colour. Which particular aircraft a you planning to do? Best regards;Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hi Barry; You might already have this covered, but Edgar once told me that Battle of Britain Spits would almost certainly have the metal seat fitted as opposed to the composite seat...so it will need to be painted green not the reddish brown colour. Which particular aircraft a you planning to do? Best regards; Steve "Battle of Britian Spitfire" is a broad term, and too general to determine which seat (amongst other changes) would be appropriate. According to Edgar's research, plastic (i.e. the redbrown seat) were approved for use from May14th, 1940. So if your "BoB Spit" was built after that date, then it could have had a plastic seat, but before that date, it would seem a metal seat is appropriate. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Quite correct Doug, I should have been more specific, so thank you for the reminder of the date. It would be very helpful to know which particular airframe Barry is building. That could determine a whole host of factors which might need considered for the build. Apparently, no seat armour before June 1940, but it was rushed into service after that date. I imagine that there must have been quite a few Spitfires using the older hand pump undercarriage retraction as well during that period too. Best regards; Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Thanks guys....duly noted! Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 My plan is/was to us one of the markings in the kit. I kind of fancy the black/white IFF scheme but not sure it was still being used during the early BOB time frame. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) The night* and white underside scheme was in use from 1938 until June 1940. How quickly existing aircraft were repainted to Sky was likely a matter of weeks rather than overnight, allowing for the new colour to be distributed and confusions over Sky Blue and Sky Grey to be settled. It occurs to me that we really need an Edgar Brooks Memorial Archive where the results of all his original research could be collated, preserved and perhaps even added to. As it is, loads of his nuggets of information are salted away in forum posts randomly scattered. * The black colour would actually be 'night', a mix of Carbon Black with Ultramarine pigment added for durability but it should not look blue-ish. A very dark grey would be more suitable for scale models Edited December 30, 2015 by Chek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 It occurs to me that we really need an Edgar Brooks Memorial Archive where the results of all his original research could be collated, preserved and perhaps even added to. As it is, loads of his nuggets of information are salted away in forum posts randomly scattered I had wondered who would rise to the mantel of "Resident Spitfire Aficionado" not meaning that one can or should be able to replace someone like Edgar. I like your suggestion! Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Has anyone collected all the bits of information Edgar provided over the years? Would be great to have a sort of information package for reference available. Cees Barry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Funny you should say that Cees, as one guy has made a start on just such a project. The first version just released is only 16 pages, but I would think it could grow rapidly as contributions are made. Check it out here: http://http://www.jonbius.com/edgar-brooks-spitfire-notes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Funny you should say that Cees, as one guy has made a start on just such a project. The first version just released is only 16 pages, but I would think it could grow rapidly as contributions are made. Check it out here: http://http://www.jonbius.com/edgar-brooks-spitfire-notes/ The link doesn´t work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Apologies for that. Try this: http://www.jonbius.com/edgar-brooks-spitfire-notes/ Although I see this topic also links to it: //forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=60154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Thanks. I already foud it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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