LSP_Kevin Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 As far as I'm aware, the HK Models kit is not dead, but I'll see if I can get word from the horse's mouth. Kev Jan_G, ghatherly, LSP_K2 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Indeed Kev - I've seen nothing yet to indicate that the HK kit isn't going to materialise - so my hopes are on seeing that at some point. I steered clear of the Wild Hare kit when announced as it's resin overkill - in my humble opinion. I started to work on a conversion - back in 2013 - and had scoped out what needed to be done to convert the Tamiya F-J to the F-4K/M variants - a multi-media approach - but using some modern techniques. Through some good friends on here I've seen the possibilities/technology move forward - and more convinced a mutli-media conversion is doable. Through the very kind offices of a third party I was offered access to a number of airframes - in various states of disassembly - in order to get all the dimensions/shapes needed. Plans changed when we were made aware of the proposed kit. The data that Derek and I obtained was passed on - but I've heard nothing recently. *If* the HK kit doesn't materialise I *may* resurrect what I was planning as a conversion - but this depends on my day job and what happens to the UK at the end of March. I am currently working on a possible first release from Aeronut - but it's not for the Phantom - that's just between us, eh? And, yes, I will dig the Lightning stuff out again. Iain MikeC, Darren Howie, Tony T and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Iain (32SIG) said: And, yes, I will dig the Lightning stuff out again. Iain Good news on the Phantom, obvs, but especially so on the Lightning. I haven't seen an Echelon kit for sale for years now, and I need at least another two Lightnings. Lightning models that actually look somewhat like Lightnings, that is. firefly7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, LSP_Kevin said: As far as I'm aware, the HK Models kit is not dead, but I'll see if I can get word from the horse's mouth. That would be awesome. I have built no 32nd Phantom yet, but a FG.1/K would be HIGH on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 hours ago, timvkampen said: It is a strange way to operate: destroy what is of potential tremendous value. I read that the legacy PE/Resin/Books company Verlinden also finished business. There were no interested parties to buy it (or parts of the valuables (goodwill, masters etc), so they closed shop and destroyed the remaining stock and masters...a crying shame. No, not true at all; Izzet (from Lots of Models), bought all of the Verlinden molds. timvkampen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee White Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: No, not true at all; Izzet (from Lots of Models), bought all of the Verlinden molds. Yeah, no......... https://www.track-link.com/forums/news_general/52374/flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Lee White said: Yeah, no......... https://www.track-link.com/forums/news_general/52374/flat Actually, yes, at least that's what he himself told us (Shawn, Daniel and I) here at a show this last September. I recall the story and photos of them loading them all into dumpsters, as many of us undoubtedly do, but Izzet assured us that he made a deal to buy all of the master molds they had, and currently sells over 40 pages of his stuff, almost all in-stock, with more to be released when and as the need arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 This seems apropos not to mention germane to the subject. Posted on Ron Downey's blog, F-4K Phantom II External Access Doors a supplementary manual showing panels and numbers for the Spey Phantom FG1. The more comprehensive manual covering the major USAF.USN types is available here Although I've said it before, I'll say it again: I can't recommend Ron's blog too highly. He often posts gems such as the couple referenced here. timvkampen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timvkampen Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 12 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: No, not true at all; Izzet (from Lots of Models), bought all of the Verlinden molds. Really!? Well, that is a relief. Some of the work is still relevant and most useful today. Any idea if they are going to issue some of it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: Actually, yes, at least that's what he himself told us (Shawn, Daniel and I) here at a show this last September. I recall the story and photos of them loading them all into dumpsters, as many of us undoubtedly do, but Izzet assured us that he made a deal to buy all of the master molds they had, and currently sells over 40 pages of his stuff, almost all in-stock, with more to be released when and as the need arrives. As far as I know (there were discussions among Belgian modellers about that situation some time ago), they destroyed the molds, some assembled kits, dioramas, boxes and tons of other things but not the most valuable assets: the masters...! timvkampen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 any chance to get the CE conversion at a reasonable price now that HKM has announced that it will make a plastic kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Luca said: any chance to get the CE conversion at a reasonable price now that HKM has announced that it will make a plastic kit? I would not hold my breath for that. Before the actual delivery of any IM kit, this will stay a very expensive collector set. Luca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Luca said: any chance to get the CE conversion at a reasonable price now that HKM has announced that it will make a plastic kit? Most of the people who might buy the set probably don’t even know that HKM had even announced a kit, and based on this thread, many of those who do know don’t believe a kit is likely to come out soon, or even ever. I don’t see prices dropping until a kit actually hits the shelves. Luca and ghatherly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghatherly Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Dave Williams said: Most of the people who might buy the set probably don’t even know that HKM had even announced a kit, and based on this thread, many of those who do know don’t believe a kit is likely to come out soon, or even ever. I don’t see prices dropping until a kit actually hits the shelves. Yes you will see the CE set come down some, but really so few were made it may hold most of it's value as a collectors item. As for my estimate of a new set price, it ia based on hard numbers with no profit built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 So, after another excursion around the teddy bears' picnic garden, we have determined that: a/ a conversion set for the Tamiya J is not viable for 2019, if ever again b/ the CE Wild Hare set is really just a rare unaffordable collector's item with a few errors of its own c/ we still don't know the status of the formerly announced HKM kit In the absence of this RAF Phantom icon, the Kitty Hawk Jaguars and any other 1/32 Cold War era jets I'm skipping back to 1/48 pending Iain's Lightning updates. Revell have just repopped the FGR.2, Airfix are repopping the Sea Vixen, and that's plenty for this year. But I would switch back in a moment if and when HKM has anything positive to tell us. Tony ghatherly, MikeC, Luca and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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