RBrown 1,521 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Submitted for those interested: BGB, sharkmouth, LSP_K2 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
D Bellis 2,878 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Well, let me try to put it this this way: This is where it gets fuzzy. Nothing for or against anyone, but... Until I see a photo of someone holding a measuring instrument against an original Fw 190A/F/G spinner, no one's information is any more or less credible. It isn't about people or their credentials. Nor is it about attempting to interpret measurements from photographs. It is strictly about facts. One guy says for sure that it measured out to one thing, while another guy says that still another guy said for sure it measured out to something different. There's no conclusive proof either way. Until there is conclusive proof, the statement in the first post stands. If anyone out there has an Fw 190A/F/G spinner to measure, we'd all love to see a ruler laid across the base of it. D mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BGB 464 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hello, Thanks guys that is the pic I saw!! Interesting so the original factory drawings do not have the same measurments as the original spinners so different original aircraft can have different sizes on those parts. Cheers Boris mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fockewings 143 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 This is where it gets fuzzy. Nothing for or against anyone, but... It isn't about people or their credentials. Nor is it about attempting to interpret measurements from photographs. It is strictly about facts. One guy says for sure that it measured out to one thing, while another guy says that still another guy said for sure it measured out to something different. There's no conclusive proof either way. Until there is conclusive proof, the statement in the first post stands. If anyone out there has an Fw 190A/F/G spinner to measure, we'd all love to see a ruler laid across the base of it. D Maybe I wrote it too foggy but when I say that I have seen the tool and yes ,Henri made a huge rigid tool with different probes to slide in and out to get even the shape correct as some mathematician would try to create a curb with a complex function, then I mean it. Dont get me wrong if I say that a ruler is not the tool you would try to measure a round part. Eyesight, angles, calculating mistakes when converting back to metric aso. Also, where is the problem with trusting two models and a guy known for his proper work instead of getting hooked on one favorite model? Having stated it two times , the relations at original pictures dont fit to the new mold hasegawa kit either. Dont forget that there are also differences in spinner-diameters from the first A-1( being smaller) to the later versions. mpk, Artful69 and D.B. Andrus 3 Link to post Share on other sites
D Bellis 2,878 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 ...Henri made a huge rigid tool with different probes to slide in and out to get even the shape correct ... Good for Henri. But: D mpk and fockewings 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RBrown 1,521 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Hasegawa is releasing a Fw 109A5 /U7 with new resin cowl intakes and a figure of Hermann Graf. scvrobeson, mpk, D Bellis and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
RBrown 1,521 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Here is another photo of the Fw190F8 with the shark-mouthed bombs. scvrobeson, BGB, mpk and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Artful69 2,975 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Maybe I wrote it too foggy but when I say that I have seen the tool and yes ,Henri made a huge rigid tool with different probes to slide in and out to get even the shape correct as some mathematician would try to create a curb with a complex function, then I mean it. Dont get me wrong if I say that a ruler is not the tool you would try to measure a round part. Eyesight, angles, calculating mistakes when converting back to metric aso. Also, where is the problem with trusting two models and a guy known for his proper work instead of getting hooked on one favorite model? Having stated it two times , the relations at original pictures dont fit to the new mold hasegawa kit either. Dont forget that there are also differences in spinner-diameters from the first A-1( being smaller) to the later versions. ... I don't think it would matter to some people - even if Henri owned a full range of original props and spinners that were delivered from the factory to his front door, at the time they were in production ... some people would still not believe his work is on the money ... there'd be an excuse, like the ruler was off! Having seen some of his "how to" measuring work on other threads though ... you won't find me betting agains't him. Rog mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
D Bellis 2,878 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 ... some people would still not believe his work is on the money ... And, some people will believe anything just because it is attributed to a reliable source. D DougN and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth 82 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Thanks GeeBee ad RBrown! I know Karaya released some decal sheets based on profiles in these books (which I need to pick up on my next trip to Eastern Europe). I wonder if any of the sheets have the bomb markings? I was about to post my measurements from the Fw 190F-8 I came across in Kissimmee Florida but, without knowing the provenance of the spinner, what's the point? Regards, Edited June 6, 2015 by sharkmouth mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fockewings 143 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Good for Henri. But: D Well suit yourself. I was just trying to give on useful info. If you dont want it its up to you. I have bought too much useless resin stuff from aftermarket suppliers in the states for the FW and most of that went practically straight into the bin thanks to good photographs and bad quality of the part itself. I dont want to name any but there were spinners and blades only minorly modified as well as other parts not up to the standards and quality I want. This is why I trust Henri and the parts he makes after proper archive and museum research are beyond critics. Link to post Share on other sites
fockewings 143 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 And, some people will believe anything just because it is attributed to a reliable source. D unbelievable... Anyway some people do that because they like what they do for a hobby and Henri is one of these guys. There is also the point he is NOT making money with it since nobody would want to pay for his research and visits to sites and part owners. You want him to post pics with measurements in the net? Well believe it or not he is even listing up references and part numbers but at some point some people dont believe it anyway or even copy his fantastic work and before I get upset over some facts here I just let it be. Have a good day gents... Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph-D 246 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Thanks GeeBee ad RBrown! I know Karaya released some decal sheets based on profiles in these books (which I need to pick up on my next trip to Eastern Europe). I wonder if any of the sheets have the bomb markings? I was about to post my measurements from the Fw 190F-8 I came across in Kissimmee Florida but, without knowing the provenance of the spinner, what's the point? Regards, Shark-M the link is not working! regards mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph-D 246 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Good for Henri. But: D The link shows the same method Henri use to measure the spinner on the D-9 and A-8. http://www.largescaleplanes.com/reviews/review.php?rid=1257 BTW - AM are similar to our believes, everyone has it own favourite. That is good so and no reason for a new crusader trip - amen scvrobeson, mpk, BGB and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeanKB Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The big comparison for me? Revell £30 & falling. Hasegawa £stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
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