Brad-M Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So I guess asking Simon if he could post pics of the areas to watch out for in the kit, compared to pics of the real aircraft is not permitted to be discussed here? Again, just asking, because I actually have an interest in this. Thanks Brad Kagemusha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So I guess asking Simon if he could post pics of the areas to watch out for in the kit, compared to pics of the real aircraft is not permitted to be discussed here? Again, just asking, because I actually have an interest in this. Thanks Brad Perhaps he can start a new thread, so that those interested can participate in that discussion? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cross Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) KingK-series Dekenba No further contributions in this thread from either of you. You are free discuss your ideas via PM together. I've pruned a lot of posts (varying in their degree) that began to ruin other members opportunity to have a conversation about the kit LSP Matt Thank you!!!!!! Actually, the problems with this kit sound like the ones with the Hasegawa 109 Gustav which many here LOVE (click here). That kit has problems with the spinner, blades, oil cooler, wing nacelles, etc. I put more money into AM upgrades for it than any kit I can remember. This Spitfire is about 1/2-2/3 the cost of the Hase kit, so that's pretty significant right there if you're going to "fix" it. May I suggest that the kit haters put together a tweak list, and stop filling up these threads with the same complaints over and over? Edited June 23, 2014 by Bill Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad-M Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Perhaps he can start a new thread, so that those interested can participate in that discussion? Doug Hi Doug, Why do we need to start a new thread? The original poster, Edgar, got us started on the right foot with his quick look review. Simon just added his thoughts since he has two kits in hand. This thread seems like a great place to continue the discussion for those that are interested. Cheers Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 May I suggest that the kit haters put together a tweak list, and stop filling up these threads with the same complaints over and over? I don't think using such an emotive word as "haters" helps, and Simon was just pointing out what he perceived as being errors in the kit, as Edgar did at the outset, and Ben has in his review on LSM, are they "haters" too? This site's at its best in threads like Iain's build of the He 219, SirBlueHenry's Harvard, etc., where people have a passion for the aircraft and want to make the best rendition possible from the kit to hand. It would be nice to see Simon post his observations in either a discussion or build thread. ps. the nose/spinner on the Hobbycraft P-51A/A-36 is all wrong. D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So I guess asking Simon if he could post pics of the areas to watch out for in the kit, compared to pics of the real aircraft is not permitted to be discussed here? Again, just asking, because I actually have an interest in this. Thanks Brad Nobody is opposed to that, just to the never ceasing (and quite pointless), "it's all screwed up" commentary. Side by side comparisons would be very welcome by all I'd think. By all means, bring on the photo comparisons, and let's be done with observations without substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Nobody is opposed to that, just to the never ceasing (and quite pointless), "it's all screwed up" commentary. Side by side comparisons would be very welcome by all I'd think. By all means, bring on the photo comparisons, and let's be done with observations without substance. But Simon isn't permitted to post on this thread? - and was he not constructive in his criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhorina Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) I like to know what is good or bad about all new kits. When some members say a kit is ok and others say not so great why must there always be arguments about what one or the other says? Aren't they just opinions from one or the other? It seems to me, who only wants to know the opinions, right or wrong. All members should realize that its just someone's opinion. Why must we argue who is right or wrong? If you have frequented boards like this, sooner or later you will know whose opinion was good or bad, right or wrong it is then your opinion that should count for you. You yourself will make the decision on who was right or wrong, good or bad and you are the only one who buys or does not buy a kit. Its always about you, who trusts these opinions or not, before you buy. I like to know what other people think about a kit before I buy. Its always nice when members like to share their opinions, but it becomes tiresome when others only want to degrade the other guys opinion, because they are right and the other guy is wrong. I'd like to make that decision without the BS. Mike Horina Edited June 23, 2014 by mhorina DougN, BGB and Kagemusha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Well, the problem lies in the fact that opinions are too often mixed with facts. Personally, I'm more interested in the latter but this is a matter of taste! This is why it makes no mystery pictures do help noticeably in such circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I just resent people implying I'm an idiot for even considering spending my money on a kit they consider is beneath contempt. I'm quite able to make my own mind up, thank you. I'll be extremely grateful for pointers, with evidence, to perceived problems, even more so if you show me how you have tackled corrective or replacement surgery, but don't expect a smile and a thank-you if patronisingly tell me that 'It's OK for me me to have my own opinion', and its 'OK for me to have my own level of fun building rubbish'. I don't need that kind of permission from anyone. Tim MikeC, Little Andi and Mikester 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Now, where's my micrometer? :rofl: nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic C.D. Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I've started building one last week. I mean it's a kit, so we better start building it, right? I'll be posting a few photos soon in WIP! Please do send any info on necessary changes in the topic! Greetings from sunny Brussels ! Nic LSP_Kevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I've started building one last week. I mean it's a kit, so we better start building it, right? I'll be posting a few photos soon in WIP! Please do send any info on necessary changes in the topic! Greetings from sunny Brussels ! Nic That's the idea Nic! If we saw less activity up here and more down in Works in Progress, we'd start getting back on track... Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cross Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I don't think using such an emotive word as "haters" helps, and Simon was just pointing out what he perceived as being errors in the kit, as Edgar did at the outset, and Ben has in his review on LSM, are they "haters" too? You're right, "hater" is too strong a word. My point I guess is that we've had how many threads already about the "fatal" errors of this kit? And every time it comes up in a new thread, those who passionately dislike the kit feel the need to re-post almost all the same objections to it. We then seem to wander off into arguments-- no, sorry, discussions-- about what's the "right" kind of modeling, and whether people who are satisfied with this kit-- hell, who even contemplate buying it-- are somehow inferior modelers or willing to put up with less. And has been pointed out on several occasions, only a handful of folks seem to have actually handled the REAL kit and are not just piling on from photos. So why don't all those who find highly objectionable aspects to the kit produce a tweak list? I'd actually be very interested, since this currently is the only LS Spitty for the BoB period on the market. There are some correctives in the works, and end the end, it might just build into a pretty good kit after some blood, sweat, tears and toil. Sorta like the Hasegawa Bf-109 G-6. D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hansen Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Not my Circus, Not my Monkeys, but i think the complaining will stop when we start seeing photos of in-progress and finished Revell Spitfires. Roy Sutherland says there's nothing about the kit which is FF-ed, and thats good enough for me. david Bill Cross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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