Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Hi Geoff, thanks for your input on this, and indeed i guess i must have been thrown off track with hindsight, and if this discussion hadn't come up it would have bugged me for quite some time to come. I thought i had a good "eye" on the Mustang, with lots of documentation and on the modelling front lots of 1/32 scale Mustang kits of different brandnames in my stash, but it shows you're never too old to learn new things. (though i once made a hybrid, grafting a Monogram "D" nose onto a Revell "B" fuselage, but that didn't do it for me either) I appreciate your gesture very much, but you need not go thru all the hassle sending me a B wing, i just hope Jerry isn't too upset after all this commotion i apparently threw up. cheers, Jack. Hi Jack, It isn't a hassle to send it over to you. It's not just a wing either. It's the entire kit minus a few small parts you can get in any Mustang kit. It also includes the clear parts from JR's -B-. Last chance.... Cheers Geoff Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 This has turned into a pleasent thread dispite my tantrum earlier. Here is the P-51D I was in the middle of developing right before Tamiya crushed me. The main plan was to straighten out all the major(and minor) fuselage shape issues for all the 1/32 scale kits with this release. I was then gonna take this basic frame and convert it back to a B/C mark by adding the razor back and making the slight mods to the nose that Geoff knows about. The basis and start point for my old B kit was the Hasegawa kit,so I am surprised when Jack said he saw little difference between my kit and the revell kit? Both kits have shape issues as per the almost perfect Neely drawings which both Geoff and I agree are without parallel. The Hasegawa kit is almost 1/4 inch too wide at the cockpit sill! But it's nose is fairly close to being correct(but not quite). The Revell kit as geoff stated is good at the mid section but aweful at the nose and both kits failed to capture the shape of the tail correctly. Then there is the wing issue. Both fall short. Actually you can get a pretty good B/C bird if you start with a Hobbycraft A kit and graft a Hasegawa nose onto it. But there are a lot more mods that will need to be done as well. Some nostalga for me My other"baby" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrov27 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 That looks good Jerry - nice work on that D model! Concerning a B model in 1/32, if today, I wanted the most accurate plastic model, would grafting the back half of a Hobbycraft A version with the nose section and under scoop of a Tamiya D model be ideal? If I understand though, nobody does a really "perfect" wing for the B right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 This has turned into a pleasent thread dispite my tantrum earlier. Here is the P-51D I was in the middle of developing right before Tamiya crushed me. The main plan was to straighten out all the major(and minor) fuselage shape issues for all the 1/32 scale kits with this release. I was then gonna take this basic frame and convert it back to a B/C mark by adding the razor back and making the slight mods to the nose that Geoff knows about. The basis and start point for my old B kit was the Hasegawa kit,so I am surprised when Jack said he saw little difference between my kit and the revell kit? Both kits have shape issues as per the almost perfect Neely drawings which both Geoff and I agree are without parallel. The Hasegawa kit is almost 1/4 inch too wide at the cockpit sill! But it's nose is fairly close to being correct(but not quite). The Revell kit as geoff stated is good at the mid section but aweful at the nose and both kits failed to capture the shape of the tail correctly. Then there is the wing issue. Both fall short. Actually you can get a pretty good B/C bird if you start with a Hobbycraft A kit and graft a Hasegawa nose onto it. But there are a lot more mods that will need to be done as well. Some nostalga for me My other"baby" Bring deese babies back...especially the B D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 That looks good Jerry - nice work on that D model! Concerning a B model in 1/32, if today, I wanted the most accurate plastic model, would grafting the back half of a Hobbycraft A version with the nose section and under scoop of a Tamiya D model be ideal? If I understand though, nobody does a really "perfect" wing for the B right? I think it is the best of a bad situation yes. But this is theory on my part as I have never tried that graft myself. Just speaking from a eyeball perspective. The wing from the trumpy kit is the best start but not a good start. Make sense? J J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Bring deese babies back...especially the B Sounds easy peasy but I know darn well if I invest the year of hard work on the B kit Tamiya will announce one just as I near completion. And just them making an announcment will kill 99.9% of any sales on my part. Another good solution is grafting a revell or hobbycraft razorback onto the Tamiya D kit? You then have to straighten out the wing leading edge fillits but that would be a slammin kit. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 That looks good Jerry - nice work on that D model! Concerning a B model in 1/32, if today, I wanted the most accurate plastic model, would grafting the back half of a Hobbycraft A version with the nose section and under scoop of a Tamiya D model be ideal? If I understand though, nobody does a really "perfect" wing for the B right? No one does a perfect anything for any Mustang. Even the Tamiya kit has its issues. Having said this...you can try this...or get hold of JR's B. http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=21269&hl= No matter what you do, it's going to take work. HTH Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Hog Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 There seems to be a lot of interest in th B/C. The marking options are leigon and the early OD and Gray schemes are ideal for those of us who fear NM finishes. BTW I think an interesting compromise is using the ZM D nose with the trumpeter kit. Not perfect but it sure looks a lot like a B. Regardless, wish somebody would come out with a good B/C. Anyone interested in an occupy Tamiya protest? marauderdriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sounds easy peasy but I know darn well if I invest the year of hard work on the B kit Tamiya will announce one just as I near completion. And just them making an announcment will kill 99.9% of any sales on my part. Another good solution is grafting a revell or hobbycraft razorback onto the Tamiya D kit? You then have to straighten out the wing leading edge fillits but that would be a slammin kit. J You've become such a whiner...buildem will ya!!! FUF (fromaufriend)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Don't forget to make that wing like a babys' butt,nice and smooth! Maybe when I finish my P-38 I'll get back to the stang. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 No..no..no...mustang first. I don't know why I talk to you Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggo Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Don't forget to make that wing like a babys' butt,nice and smooth! Maybe when I finish my P-38 I'll get back to the stang. J The level of detail and accuracy in the fuel cap on that wing say all I need to know. I'm a fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 No..no..no...mustang first. I don't know why I talk to you Hahaha, Wait a minute,you DON'T talk to me! At least you never answer the freekin phone. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRutman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The level of detail and accuracy in the fuel cap on that wing say all I need to know. I'm a fan! Thanks buddy. I did spend some time on that fuel cap. Didn't think anyone would notice. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Don't forget to make that wing like a babys' butt,nice and smooth! Maybe when I finish my P-38 I'll get back to the stang. J I KNOW!!! Why don't you do an 1/18 nth scale D/B/C !!!! OMG!!! Why didn't I think of this sooner? You'll love it !!! No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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