Help - Revell He-111 P1 cockpit color

[Volture]

Hi my friends,

 

I had allready started to built the 1/32 HE-111 P1 of battle of britain era, and i need your help.

 

I would to ask if anybody knows, what is the correct color of the cockpit ? the rlm 02 or the rlm 66?

 

Thanks in advance

[Wurzacher]

According to all I have seen or read so far it´s RLM 66: at latest during the BoB all areas visible through a cockpits glazing had to be painted this colour.

[Volture]

thanks mister Wurzacher, but i am confused because i know that the order to paint the cockpits with the 66 gave to the crews in 1941!...after the battle of britain!!(?)

...and the eduard prepaint photo eched set is in 02....?? 

 

any any case....i am trully thank you about your help

[Wurzacher]

Not pretty sure on the exact dates but I think the He 111P that was restored in Norway already has the cockpit in RLM 66. Despite being downed in 1940... Will have to check my AeroDetail on this, though.

 

In my opinion Eduard´s pre-painted photo etched parts are not the best reference in determining a colour. When doing my Ju 88 here on LSP I had to be rather "flexible" to adapt my cockpit colour RLM 66 to the tone Eduard gave their PE parts...

 

Maybe you can find some more references of the aircraft you are going to build. But most important: keep the fun!

[Volture]

Not pretty sure on the exact dates but I think the He 111P that was restored in Norway already has the cockpit in RLM 66. Despite being downed in 1940... Will have to check my AeroDetail on this, though.

 

In my opinion Eduard´s pre-painted photo etched parts are not the best reference in determining a colour. When doing my Ju 88 here on LSP I had to be rather "flexible" to adapt my cockpit colour RLM 66 to the tone Eduard gave their PE parts...

 

Maybe you can find some more references of the aircraft you are going to build. But most important: keep the fun!

Your help is great mister!!!i have seen a lot of modellers to use rlm66....i am comfused!!One big part of enjoy in our art (not only hobby) is the historical research..but:

You are absolutely right my friend, the most important is to keep the fun!!

[LSP_K2]

The Aero Detail book shows all RLM66 in the pit interior.

[BradG]

I faced the same problem when building mine, but I went with RLM 02. I wasn't trusting of the Heinkel in Norway as that has been extensively rebuilt and I have the feeling that most information for the interior colour is coming from this aircraft. I looked high and low for a picture of the interior but just couldn't find any and those taken from outside in black and white, it was just impossible to tell and given the fact that Revell give you the extremely helpful description of the interior colour as 'grey', I reckon they don't have a clue either.

[Volture]

maybe a inside cockpit photo at the early war '39-'40 of he111 it should help me!

i was looking all my reference (including aerodetail and kagero publishing) ....i found some "inside early photos" but i am not sure about the color....it seems to me very dark to be rlm 02!! 

[Bill Misco]

Hi. RLM 02 was used on interiors until November 1941, when RLM gave the order to use RLM 66.

[Volture]

Thanks for your help mr Bill.

[nmayhew]

I suggest you check with Guttorm of the Norwegian museum who has posted many time here

 

He will be able to tell you for certain whether Thor bird was originally 02 or 66...

[Volture]

I suggest you check with Guttorm of the Norwegian museum who has posted many time here

 

He will be able to tell you for certain whether Thor bird was originally 02 or 66...

very nice suggestion !!....i will try with pm

thank you in advance  mister!

[Roy vd M.]

Hi Volture, you may find the answer here: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=48155&p=533293

[D.B. Andrus]

Volture, what color does this look like to you, 02 or 66?

 

 

 

 

HTH,

 

D.B.

 

[LSP_Ron]

RLM Shadow?