DeanKB Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Especially as it would imply huge PE sheets. And the fit on the wing leading edge would not be a piece of cake. I still remember how i struggle to glue the PE radiators of my Macchi M.39, and they were just radiators (no need to be accurate to the 1/10th mm). I very much doubt the PE will come pre-applied. That would mean HpH would have to pay skilled modellers to apply the PE before shipping the kit. The cost will be horrendous as it is! Adding a substantial additional cost to an already very expensive kit would take it out of the reach of all but the wealthiest modellers - or, at least, those with the biggest credit limits! It would also open up quality control issues - best to leave PE application to the buyers, as this keeps the cost down, negates the need to employ modellers to model (rather than create kits) and stops HpH having to check the PE is applied consistently. As it's a 100% manual task, that would not be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I very much doubt the PE will come pre-applied. That would mean HpH would have to pay skilled modellers to apply the PE before shipping the kit. The cost will be horrendous as it is! Adding a substantial additional cost to an already very expensive kit would take it out of the reach of all but the wealthiest modellers - or, at least, those with the biggest credit limits! It would also open up quality control issues - best to leave PE application to the buyers, as this keeps the cost down, negates the need to employ modellers to model (rather than create kits) and stops HpH having to check the PE is applied consistently. As it's a 100% manual task, that would not be easy. Dean, I'm not talking about pre-applying the PE before shipping out the kit. I'm talking about adding the PE to the masters, so that the detail they provide becomes part of the resin parts after casting. This makes much more sense to me than supplying naked resin and bunch of flat PE sheets. It would not only make the model much more work, but probably much more expensive, too. Kev Zero77, Bill_S, Iain and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) I would imagine all that is being shown here is the master surface being prepared. The metal skinning being applied so that all kits will have a raised rivet surface as per the actual airframe? Just a thought Cheers Anthony Oops Kev looks like we posted the same thought at the same time....lol Edited May 31, 2016 by Anthony in NZ Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanKB Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Dean, I'm not talking about pre-applying the PE before shipping out the kit. I'm talking about adding the PE to the masters, so that the detail they provide becomes part of the resin parts after casting. This makes much more sense to me than supplying naked resin and bunch of flat PE sheets. It would not only make the model much more work, but probably much more expensive, too. Kev I see - but why would they use coloured PE sheets in that case? Maybe lost in translation somewhere perhaps? The Me232 wings look just absolutely ridiculously big. Stupidly, manically so. Will anybody buy that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 A-20G is a great subject! Iain Alburymodeler and Zero77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I see - but why would they use coloured PE sheets in that case? Maybe lost in translation somewhere perhaps? But that's exactly my point. Heinz' post suggests that it will be shipped that way, but that approach doesn't make any sense to me. Hence my query for clarification. Kev Zero77 and Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo.b Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 A-20G is a great subject! Iain I agree RAAF decals would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo.b Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 But that's exactly my point. Heinz' post suggests that it will be shipped that way, but that approach doesn't make any sense to me. Hence my query for clarification. Kev After seeing the issues involved with attempting to glue down etched radiators on the Aerotech Macchies I would say that unless HpH have developed a new form of super adhesive that is ultra thin (wont form lumps under the pe), allows time for fine adjustment andforms a permament bond in all weather conditions then this kit will be unbuildable. Brent DougN and Alburymodeler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'll bet the DC-3 will be re-cast with the PE details added so we get a nicely detailed wing.. HpH will only have to produce limited numbers of the PE for the master, imagine the cost and weight of the PE sheets added to a wing in kit form. It just doesn't make any sense.. I'll buy a GIGANT, if I can afford it... I just have no idea where to put it when built.. I'm struggling with a 1/72nd IL-86!, I'd want to take it to shows too, but who has room for a 32nd GIGANT on their table?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunkmeister Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Well..... You KNOW I'd buy one, or two, or three. I'd even build them too. Not many guys can say an airplane made them deaf. I can Edited June 1, 2016 by Clunkmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 that would be very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 lots of space for additional detailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) A 1/32 S.M. 79 would certainly be a purchase for me! Edited June 1, 2016 by lawman56 Zero77, Alburymodeler, Tnarg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I would buy any A-20 version, as well as the C-47 and specially the SM 79. 1/32 B-29, really not caring if I have to sell the car and move out of my room to build one. Will buy. I agree with Rog, a Do 17Z is an overlooked subject in 1/32 and I think it would be a best seller. The missing link on the major BoB german bombers. Appreciate the comments about HpH moving from single to multi engine subjects but I wonder if a Hurricane Mk.I would not be a good seller either. I keep hearing people not being able to find the Pacific Models´ kit for sale very easily and the Revell one seems to be a bit dated. Henrique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vulcan32 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Hi, back from a working trip I will response to a few posts before I leave to Brussels tomorrow. To add the coloured PE ist the idea now, it´s in the stage of testing. Maybe they find out that is too tricky. But those of you who take the Helldiver will see how thin the PE parts are. I also would prefer the surface casted in resin. There´s a long way to release, so everything can change. We will see. Cheers, Heinz LSP_Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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